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13 minutes ago, skippybangkok said:

 

Sorry Sheryl - disagree w you re benefits of sedation ( if it's at all possible at depth ). Having cave dived a little and also having had to deal with 2 panicked divers (not in a cave), I am 100% clear the biggest obstacle is ones inner fears and it can kill quickly

 

The head of the Brit cave rescue assc. recently said they bound ( immobilized ) and used a divers gag for one extraction- it was clear they did not want a panicked diver to jeopardize the extraction ( which was successful )

 

 

It simple - they can get inanimate items in and out of the cave no issue , so the more the boys just so nothing and chill, I would give almost a 100% chance of them gettibg out

 

Just look at how people panick having MRI's - this is a whole different level

 

 

 

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There is no "depth" to consider. It's just through flooded tunnels. No way I'd go through without being heavily sedated.

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I wonder if all the tanks stashed along the way will require boys to change masks or if they have quick connect fittings?  I have not used these full face masks. Has anyone?  I can imagine pro divers can monitor air tank pressure and stop to change when needed.   I know standard dive regulators all fit in tanks the same way but they don't use quick connects. 

 

Maybe they will use some sort if sedation.  I had a shoulder MRI and it put me close to freaking out.  Maybe they only need to sedate one or two.  

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22 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

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Thai government releases graphic about #thamluangcaverescue . Full face masks; 2 divers accompanying 1 boy; guided by rope. When facing a very narrow path, they will release the tank from back and slowly roll tank & guide the boy through. They walk from Chamber 3 to mouth of cave

 

This is probably a clearer infographic:

 

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https://twitter.com/MichCaldeira/status/1015889639222194177?s=17

 

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1 minute ago, Elkski said:

I wonder if all the tanks stashed along the way will require boys to change masks or if they have quick connect fittings?  I have not used these full face masks. Has anyone?  I can imagine pro divers can monitor air tank pressure and stop to change when needed.   I know standard dive regulators all fit in tanks the same way but they don't use quick connects. 

I haven't heard that anyone needs to change tanks during a single dive, and I'd be extremely surprised if they did. The reserve tanks are there to change at the ends of the tunnels on dry land. Tell me if I'm wrong.

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3 minutes ago, Fish Head Soup said:

Pryut is going to Phuket tomorrow morning and then arriving in Chiang Rai tomorrow afternoon.

My respect, praise and boundless admiration lie with the real heroes ...

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5 hours ago, jerry921 said:

If the kids dive with 2 divers each, they're going to need 26 divers, not 18...

"Narongsak said the boys and their coach would dive out one at a time, each accompanied by two members of a team of Thai and foreign divers."

 

1 kid followed by 2 divers to the first narrow or dry section. To more divers receiving the

kid on the other side, bringing him to the next section, and so on. 

 

The first divers goes back and get another kid and the cycle repeats until everybody is out. 

Unless you know how many narrow and dry parts there are, there is no way you can do the

math on how many divers are needed..

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7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I haven't heard that anyone needs to change tanks during a single dive, and I'd be extremely surprised if they did. The reserve tanks are there to change at the ends of the tunnels on dry land. Tell me if I'm wrong.

One of the info graphics said the longest underwater section was a 20 minute dive. But I think end-to-end is longer than they can go on a single tank, so they have to change along the way somewhere, but not necessarily under water. I'm not a diver though.

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4 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Hope that bumbling fool and his cohorts stay well away and let the experts do their jobs.

Just hope the other fat p as great as he thinks he is doesn’t decide to help and get stuck in a 2m x 2m passage. Well not until everyone is out least. Hoping to hear the first one out being successful. Then all will follow happily. 

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