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BANGKOK 23 October 2018 00:11
Andrew108

Too old for the decent positions at 50?

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My plan is to come over to Thailand next March and study the CELTA course at IH Bangkok. I’m thinking that by the time the course is finished in mid April (and after Songkran) there should be lots of work available? I’ve heard that getting hired might be difficult due to my age. I’ll be 51 next year. I’ve seen quite a few adverts that specify job-seekers should be under the age of 45.

Anyhow, I have quite a bit of teaching experience from a few years ago and with a newly minted CELTA, I wouldn’t really want to settle for a salary of less than 45k a month in Bangkok. Do you think my age would work against me getting a fairly decent job in Bangkok? 

I don’t really mind a move to the provinces, but I’m thinking working in Bangkok might be more beneficial for my own professional development - I plan on taking a graduate diploma course in teaching methodology - and also have a plan to do the Delta. My long term goal is to teach in the Gulf. 

Thanks for reading and just wanted to clarify a few concerns I’ve had. 

 

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Age not a problem in Thailand-but if you plan to move to the Gulf...much more stringent-most employers insist on 55 years maximum age-so you had better get a move on!

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50 is not that old:Ads often specify a lower age limit, but if you make a personal appearance at the school and look healthy and energetic they will waive that.

IIf Thailand doesn't work out, try Vietnam:I am 60 and had no problems landing a job here last year after teaching in Thailand for over 20 years. 

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China also screaming out for teachers....work visa provided and sometimes travel a nd accommodation assistance.

Salaries 4 times that if Thailand. .but it is China!

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No problem Andrew, although most schools prefer and request for Teachers age 45 or younger is more a formality to conform to the Thai hiring age group which is restrictive beyond age 45. I've taught English for 3 yrs 2007-2010 (age57-60) and gave up and Retired permanently. The key for you would be a strong educational background experience and your qualifications. It's a case of supply and demand and the demand is always greater than the supply. So age can and is often waivered to suit the school's needs. You may come across a few schools that want to keep the age difference between teacher and student to a minimum to better relate, depending on that particular school's focus and objectives. Don't over concern yourself about it. 

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Relatively low wages, and some truly bad gigs.  Decent positions often require experience.  Could you settle for another Asian country?

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Thanks all for the encouraging replies. Very helpful. Can’t wait until next year!

Thanks again,

Andrew

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8 hours ago, Andrew108 said:

Thanks all for the encouraging replies. Very helpful. Can’t wait until next year!

Thanks again,

Andrew

I have been teaching 4 Years now and I am 77, so not a problem.

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23 hours ago, thecyclist said:

50 is not that old:Ads often specify a lower age limit, but if you make a personal appearance at the school and look healthy and energetic they will waive that.

IIf Thailand doesn't work out, try Vietnam:I am 60 and had no problems landing a job here last year after teaching in Thailand for over 20 years. 

I have spent quite a bit of time in Thailand, including working for STOU from 1984-1986, and just came back from 40+ days in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). It was incredibly dirty (garbage everywhere except the central district) but the people were open, helpful and generally easy-going. I think teaching there would be quite pleasant.

 

I have heard, however, that the same problem of thug schools exploiting both foreign and local teachers has become an issue in recent years. Fly-by-nighters

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For teaching online I guess you would need an ethernet connection? In Thailand how does that work? Do you just plug an ethernet cable into your own wireless/internet router?

I would be worried about connection problems because I’ve heard some companies deduct your salary for a whole teaching period even if your connection problems lasted for only a minute or so.

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6 hours ago, simon43 said:

I have regularly mentioned the higher salaries and lack of age-discrimination in Myanmar, where I've been teaching for the past few years.

 

My view hasn't changed.  Despite that, I am coming back to Thailand early next year to continue full-time what I currently do on a part-time basis, which is teaching English on-line. (Internet connections are generally faster in Thailand than Myanmar).

 

In my evenings and at weekends, I teach English to young students in China and Vietnam, either one-to-one or as a group.  The demand for teachers is such that I can work as many hours as I want each week, with a pay rate higher than the good pay rate that I currently receive at my international school.

 

I'm being 'pestered' by these online schools to teach during the weekday daytime, which I can only do if I give up in-class teaching.

 

There seem to be some benefits to online teaching while based in Thailand:

 

- The legal status of this type of work is not 100% clearly defined, but seems to be accepted as legal, provided that one doesn't actually teach Thai students in Thailand.

- As such, no work permit or B or 'marriage' visa (and the associated costs) are needed - one can work on a retirement visa.

- Unlike my current in-class employment, there is no requirement for me to assign homework, mark homework, attend meetings, or complete detailed CATS (continuous assessment) spreadsheets - I just teach the assigned lesson content.

 

Just to add that at 60 years old, I've found no problems whatsoever in finding online teaching work - it does help though if you look 'youthful' ?

Few years?? 

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