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Pattaya testing speed-trap cameras

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On 7/27/2018 at 6:28 PM, Guitar God said:

Another great idea. 

These are outlawed in many states in the US after they found that they increased the number of accidents rather than reduced them. 

 

People were so afraid of getting a ticket that they’d lock up theirs brakes when the light turned yellow, get rear ended and then pushed out into the intersection to maybe be hit by another car. 

 

In Minnesota, the state even ended up refunding the money people paid for tickets. T 

This almost qualifies as "fake news".. I googled after reading this and the truth is far from what you state. Side-impact collisions were very definitely reduced while rear-end collisions were up slightly but less injuries. Better warning signs are needed. Also the longer the cameras are in operation the less motorists will be surprised by their presence, so fewer rear-end collisions.

 

The main issue is contracting out the issuance of tickets to private for-profit companies. This is a not a good idea, similar to for-profit prisons, in that there is no incentive to reduce infractions.

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On 7/27/2018 at 12:28 PM, mahjongguy said:

Supposedly the default speed limit on urban streets is 80kph. There is a proposal being discussed to lower that nationally to 60kph.

 

There is a new law specific to Bangkok which applies a limit of 50kph that just went into effect.

 

Yeah, that's creating more traffic jam than ever which incidentally contributes to more accidents. Do they have a special school for traffic management in Thailand where they all go to learn how to create traffic jam? 

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On 7/29/2018 at 1:18 AM, AlexCanada said:

Put a speed trap camera on Soi 15 between Soi Buakhao and Avenue Mall.  I've seen one particular motorbike rider drive around 140 kmh down that stretch many times. 

One can hope for an single-vehicle accident...

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Not yet working it seems...

 

 

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On 7/27/2018 at 7:05 PM, digger70 said:

Who's gonna collect the Ticket money?  

Won't be long before someone sets a scam going. 

One on Vauxhall bridge in London was set up and they sent look alike infringement notices with picture of the vehicle attached. 

Indications of doing 63 in a 60 zone.

£55 fine.

All payment sent to Camera Infringement Office PO box 999.

 

Thousands coughed up the coin and didn't challenge it.

The two con artists made almost £500,000.

Before they were sprung. 

 

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On 7/27/2018 at 7:05 PM, digger70 said:

Who's gonna collect the Ticket money?

That will be me, I am about to volunteer as a tourist traffic cop. 

 

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On 7/27/2018 at 11:56 AM, johng said:

I noticed two more ,  one I can't remember where it was now ( maybe beach road)

but  there is one on Thappraya road  (facing down hill) seems to be watching this U-turn

( too new to be on the google map streetview)

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@12.9082948,100.8688704,3a,75y,182.21h,88.08t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1s8tiG0dXIIN5rvJ9WZkPVaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i50

 

Also no speed limit signs..is it 60 KPh or 40 Kph...or maybe 80 KPh ?????  before you'll get a speeding ticket.

Also facing uphill too.

Both were lit up like Christmas trees last night.

 

I thought they were supposed to be not seen?

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The traffic lights near the cameras in the OP are currently on flashing amber permanently. How the traffic manages itself is an education and not a little scary. I doubt there will be too much speeding when Terminal 21 opens. Gridlock is more likely.

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best question was "who's going to be in charge of collections?"  Likely govt will farm out the process to an "independent" company (hehehe) for a cut of the action. No chance of corruption, graft, and financial abuse here, don't worry, a PMs uncle runs the collection company and he'll watch it carefully.

 

For a real world example of how traffic works, try driving or crossing LiebTang Rodfai (runs parallel to sukhumvit just east of). I think there are traffic lights at the intersections but either they are inert or just a pretty shade of yellow, and there may or may not be painted road lane lines (merely suggestive anyways). My interpretation is be careful or get killed, and sometimes be nice and let others go first. And but for a few crazy darwin award candidates, it works.

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Just now, glennb6 said:

best question was "who's going to be in charge of collections?"  Likely govt will farm out the process to an "independent" company (hehehe) for a cut of the action. No chance of corruption, graft, and financial abuse here, don't worry, a PMs uncle runs the collection company and he'll watch it carefully.

 

For a real world example of how traffic works, try driving or crossing LiebTang Rodfai (runs parallel to sukhumvit just east of). I think there are traffic lights at the intersections but either they are inert or just a pretty shade of yellow, and there may or may not be painted road lane lines (merely suggestive anyways). My interpretation is be careful or get killed, and sometimes be nice and let others go first. And but for a few crazy darwin award candidates, it works.

Same question was asked in the UK, when fixed speeding cameras/Gatsos were introduced. Eventually it became clear that their use was more to do with revenue collection than road safety and their use has been limited/phased out.

 

As for Rod Fai road, the rule is that if you want to move in any direction, you must play chicken. I use it daily, both along it and across it, and have become adept at this method. Just close your eyes and squirt the accelerator, after a few goes it becomes good fun!

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On 7/27/2018 at 1:37 PM, tryasimight said:

Seems to be a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. Many posters want law enforcement but when it happens the whining starts.

I would bet most people want sensible law enforcement

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On 7/30/2018 at 6:46 AM, Siam Bruce said:

ANYTHING that can stop people running RED lights would be welcome by me, I see Thai's and Falangs doing it on a regular basis. I am NOT talking about vehicles going through orange to RED but two or three cars still going through on RED.

Just because you have been waiting in the queue a long time does NOT give you the RIGHT to run a RED Light.  Increase the Fine to serious amount.

yup, I too consider tailgating cameras and red light cameras a priority.

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