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BANGKOK 14 December 2018 21:16
puukao

555555... Now all my kids must sound like a farang??!!

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I need to vent somehow, but i'm not really upset.  I'm leaving at the end of next month, anyhow.  Today, the director and second-in-command told me that my students should not speak with a Thai accent, only like a farang.  My kids are six and seven years old.  P1.  They don't mean only proper pronunciation, they really mean proper farang accent as well.  555555...not one kid in 1000 has my accent, so i had to explain to them for hours about expectations, P6s inability to speak (which means years of "bad" teaching"), and how I can't change my kids' accent in three months (maybe really 2.5 already) and make them all fluent.  I'm not sure there are 10 kids in 1000 who could have a conversation for more than two minutes.  

 

Oh, I get it.....they tell the parents one thing, get the money, and then in a few months wonder why everyone isn't fluent.

 

We have chinese teachers from China, but the kids don't speak like they are from China.  5555

 

and i can't even force myself to have a Thai accent where someone might, for one second, think I'm Thai.

 

If this is common, I would like to hear other stories....

 

i'm super happy i'm leaving, and i'm super glad they didn't come to me last year with this non-sense...

 

Oh, and yes, they asked me if I could speak a little bit more like an American.  I'm serious!!  I laughed pretty hard at that one....and then asked why they have six Filipino teachers...

 

funny job

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My kids live in a city with almost zero farangs, none of their parents have likely been to an English country (I've met them), and this week I will teach them English for about 3.5 hours.  I can't hear all 20 kids at once, some don't talk, some won't change how they speak, some try, some are good, some forget......and i'm happy that some can put together thoughts like, "four big pizzas and three small yellow bananas."  the kids are 6 and 7....if they aren't happy then they will end up like our grades 3,4,5, and 6.....defeatist with no motivation to learn my language.   so when the director wants them all to sound exactly like me after 2.5 months it's borderline ridiculous.  not borderline, it is...

 

today they told the Filipinos to speak with an English accent......  555555555555555555555555555555555

 

you pay 18,000 for a teacher, you won't get a good English accent.

 

then they yell at the Thai assistants for not 100% controlling the class, as if they will become fluent if every kids never moves, talks, or does anything.....

 

I feel bad for the teachers who don't have hundreds of thousands of baht in an account to take some time off...

 

in about two years, I've seen about 40 teachers come and go......we only have 50 teachers.  that's a crazy turnover.

 

lol

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, 55Jay said:

You should have asked them what PART of America they wanted you to sound like, specifically.  Or England for that matter.  Then enjoy the dumb looks on their faces. 

 

Glad you are glad about leaving.  Good luck. 

'Oh, I get it.....they tell the parents one thing, get the money, and then in a few months wonder why everyone isn't fluent.'

 

A twist - family member of buddy started work at famous bi-lingual school, second day is tasked to teach some 200 kids to swim (large number because school had no swim classes for about 1 year). Many parents complaining. Teacher can barely swim himself and has never had a formal swim lesson, supposed to be teaching science.

 

At start of day 4 school director comes by and gets angry 'why can't the kids all swim yet?'

 

Teacher walks out never to return. 

 

 

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The kids that I teach are able to have small conversations.  I have some kids that are excellent in English. A p 2 that reads at a p 6 level and scored 80 on the p 6 onet. She hasn't developed an accent

 

Schools promise the world the blame the child not spending 6 hours a night on homework  as the problems

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Crazy

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I am an Aussie and my daughter will be 7 this Christmas and speaks fluent English, with no Thai accent even though she also speaks excellent Thai and Isaan and it has nothing to do with any English teacher she has had at school to date and everything to do with the English I have taught her.

 

The really odd thing is her last English teacher at her Kindergarten, an English guy, told me a while back that before he met me, he thought her father was an American, I put that down entirely to the amount of American videos she had been watching on Youtube.

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Don'cha know 'The Queens English' You all gotta talk HM.

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Thai Teachers of English and their students are not stupid and are not to blame! Students grow up making all the same mistakes as their Teachers. Why? Because the Teachers were taught wrongly and badly themselves. It's about time Thai Teachers of English were taught by English native Speakers and who understand what English speakers actually say in real life. Most text books (including nearly all dictionaries) of Thai to English are created by Thais and quite frankly, should never see the bookshelves!

 

And nothing has changed in the fifteen years I have been here! No shout out from me for the Education Service.

 

Among the plethora of mistakes most Thai people make is pronouncing "rice" as Lice". As an Englishman, I cant' think of anything more revolting than being invited to eat my lovely Thai curry with "lice"

And talking of rice, the Thai expression indicating I will eat: "gin kaow" should not be translated into English as I will "eat rice". It should be interpreted as, I "will eat".

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Many of the Thai English teachers can't even really speak English.

TTypically Thai  question :Teacher, how long will it take me to be fluent in English?

As if you could inject language proficiency. Basically most of them are just too lazy to really work for it. 

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17 hours ago, 55Jay said:

You should have asked them what PART of America they wanted you to sound like, specifically.  Or England for that matter.  Then enjoy the dumb looks on their faces. 

 

Glad you are glad about leaving.  Good luck. 

I met a young lady at Chulalongkorn University when I was attending Thai language classes.  

After speaking in English with her for a few minutes, I was unable to place her southern (United States) accent, so I asked her.  Where in the southern part of the U.S.  did you grow up in.  

She told me that she was Thai and had never been outside of Thailand.  But you have an accent from one of the southern states of the United States, I exclamed.  She responded, I got that from my English language teacher here at Chula.   He is from the south but I forget which state.  

Her American English was flawless and she sounded just like an American when she spoke.  

As a matter of fact, her English was better than some people that have never been outside of the United States.  

 

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This is Thailand just be glad you are leaving!  When you decide to return and visit you will find nothing has changed.

Here they expect miracles but not willing to make the real sacrifice to meet the goal plus they don't lead by example nor practice what they preach! 

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