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BANGKOK 14 November 2018 08:20
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Honda Dream with 66k on odometer....repair?

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I am the original owner of this bike, bought 10 or 12 years ago. It now has 66,000 km on the clock, 125cc engine. It has been getting sluggish lately and hard to start and we're not in the cold season yet. Actually, when you give it gas, especially when cold, if revs up but takes a second or 2 for the transmission to catch, so it seems. Feels quite like a slipping clutch though that was replaced very recently...if indeed the mechanic replaced it and did not just show me someone else's old clutch parts. The engine feels pretty strong once it does "latch on" and this slipping thing gets better as the engine warms up. One of the mechanics we go to said 66k is about the life of one of these things and we should look at a new one. That's fine and we will probably do that. Nonetheless, I would like to keep the old Dream and get it in the best shape possible. I like the ride and handling of the Dream far better than the Wave, which feels unstable to me. Perhaps it's a matter of getting used to it. But my real question is about fixing up the Dream. If a manual in English was available I would attempt the work myself. Does anyone know of such a manual? Does anyone have input on what might be the problem? Needs new rings? Total engine/carb overhaul? It can't be hard. The mechanic we brought it to did not seem to want to fix it. Surely there must be shops in CM who are keen and knowledgeable about this kind of work? Or are folks here in agreement that I should just drive the wounded beast as is? By the way, I don't know about the rest of you but for me the search function on here is 99% useless.

 

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These things run for ever and are pretty much indestructible if mpg/km is still respectable engine is good

ask around for a "good mechanic" these guys can raise the dead not the Honda mob who want to wash their hands of an old motorbike

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Agree with MekkOne above.    You have just passed probably half of the life cycle of your Honda Dream.    Keep the maintenance up and you'll still be riding it 10 yrs from now.    Wife's family had Honda Dream motobikes many many years.   Get it repaired, you'll be glad you did.

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May I suggest the Man who has looked after my bikes since 2001.

Khun Oud, Soi 1 Tung Hotel Rd, go down the soi which is next to the Big Telephone building.

First Garage in the block say 500 mtres down on right hand side.

 

john

 

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Awesome, thanks guys. That's what I wanted to hear and what I thought, too. I changed the oil every 3000 km. Went over 3000 a few times but I took pretty good care of it. I just wonder if the guy never changed the clutch and that's what the "slipping" issue is, though the mechanic that said it's life expectancy was over had confirmed that it did indeed have a new clutch. But he seemed very quick to confirm that. How did he confirm that so quickly, I wonder? I'm going to see your man, jonwilly, on Tung Hotel. Yeah, I need a mechanic that gives a crap. thanks so much! Gee, really, I love tinkering on cars and such but would want a manual in English to help me along if I start opening up the Dream. One strange thing....I couldn't and still have not gotten the brakes to function well. Changed the front and back pads using the high grade ones...Honda brand maybe (can't remember). That didn't do it. One guy tells me I have to change the whole rear wheel that also holds the drum. I'm thinking why can't they just machine the drum but language is always a problem and for 1300 baht I said go for it. It accomplished nothing to make the brakes any better. The brake is pretty simple and the only thing not changed at this point are the cables. I wonder if that's the issue...? 

 

Even if the engine is tired...can't imagine it's too hard to overhaul it. Such a tiny accessible thing!

 

I did read on here that you can get an aftermarket body part kit for around 5k from Mong shop on Chang Moi road so if I can get the thing in mechanical shape who knows, I might spring for a fresh body, too.

 

Thanks all......

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Have had about 5 old dreams here, best bike ever...thrives on neglect...my mechanic does the work and i take the farings all off and detail it...have done nothing to it but oil changes-plugs and maybe tires from dry rot as its sat outside for 2 yrs as I went home, started right up and still does, all over 20+ yrs old...a workhorse..

 

paid 10k or less for them. resold them all when I left...handles.......like.........a.................................................Dream

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Totally agree. This bike is , depending on what you´re looking for the ultimate "solution". It´ll run forever if taken care of.

 

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10 hours ago, bamboozled said:

I couldn't and still have not gotten the brakes to function well.

Don't worry they never will, I mean they are stopping you, not as you expect but it's not a performance bike... yet you can convert to front disk if you want, ask to the mechanic they can do but you'll lost the 'purity' of you little monster.

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The Honda Bros shown in my photo was a wreck bought from near Bangkok.

A Truck had run into one side and split open the side case before running over the bike.

Khun Oud found it through his Thai contacts and advised he could buy cheap and rebuild.

It came up on the overnight bus to Arcade bus station, many small parcels.

I caught up the money to have the Aluminium frame machine polished, if Oud can't do it he knows where to off load the job to.

I requested twin front disk so he found a crashed 11,000cc Suzuki and fitted the front end on my Bros.

My engine was made up from 3 other engines and there used to be a US web site instructing on how to Tune the engine to increase power/torque output.

Oud who was trained as a car mechanic was only too happy to Do Up an Engine and Bike for he is a biker and I have known him have other folk work on his car when he has plenty of real work, Bikes, in his place.

I kept the bike for several years alternating weekly between it and a Honda Hornet I bought off a bar owner in CM.

A customer saw the Bros and I was persuaded to sell for more than I paid to buy and probably cleared my investment.

Oud is a Biker and loves working on BIKES.

 

john

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Excellent, you guys have given me renewed hope and I am excited to get my Dream dreamy again. For the brakes, they worked just fine when I got the bike and for years afterward. My friend has a much older model Dream, the two-tone type with the white fenders/leg guard whatever you call it and his stops much better than mine. Well, let's hope Khun Oud can tidy that up, too. I'll certainly report back!

 

Cheers!

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I brought the Dream by your guy Oud to have a look and set up an appointment to leave it there on Monday so he can go over it thoroughly. Got my fingers crossed. I'll keep y'all posted.

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My wave 125i has almost been to the moon and back....still going well...as above regular oil changes are a must. Parts and maintenance is so cheap, spend a few $ rather than buying a new one. 

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19 hours ago, bamboozled said:

Awesome, thanks guys. That's what I wanted to hear and what I thought, too. I changed the oil every 3000 km. Went over 3000 a few times but I took pretty good care of it. I just wonder if the guy never changed the clutch and that's what the "slipping" issue is, though the mechanic that said it's life expectancy was over had confirmed that it did indeed have a new clutch. But he seemed very quick to confirm that. How did he confirm that so quickly, I wonder? I'm going to see your man, jonwilly, on Tung Hotel. Yeah, I need a mechanic that gives a crap. thanks so much! Gee, really, I love tinkering on cars and such but would want a manual in English to help me along if I start opening up the Dream. One strange thing....I couldn't and still have not gotten the brakes to function well. Changed the front and back pads using the high grade ones...Honda brand maybe (can't remember). That didn't do it. One guy tells me I have to change the whole rear wheel that also holds the drum. I'm thinking why can't they just machine the drum but language is always a problem and for 1300 baht I said go for it. It accomplished nothing to make the brakes any better. The brake is pretty simple and the only thing not changed at this point are the cables. I wonder if that's the issue...? 

 

Even if the engine is tired...can't imagine it's too hard to overhaul it. Such a tiny accessible thing!

 

I did read on here that you can get an aftermarket body part kit for around 5k from Mong shop on Chang Moi road so if I can get the thing in mechanical shape who knows, I might spring for a fresh body, too.

 

Thanks all......

Check out Lazada, full body kits for Wave.Dream  3,200

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