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geoffbezoz

Running costs for a pool

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Just toying with the idea at the moment but is there anyone who can give me advice as to the maintenance/running costs of a swimming pool would be ? An idea of say the monthly filtration/cleaning cost and regular annual planned maintenance costs would be great.  Is their advantages/disadvantages between chlorinated and salt water pools ?

 

The pool would not be big , possibly only 20 mtrs x 8 mtrs so with say an average depth of 1.2 mtrs then it would hold in the region of 190 cu. mtrs of water.

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Attached is an article I wrote for a real estate magazine on salt chlorination.

I have available technology from Australia that uses Pink Himalayan salt and the system uses 2 active oxygen molecules to sanitise the water.  Fantastic for the skin with 89 minerals & no harsh chemicals.

Are you looking after your swimming pool.pdf

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As far as I see.. It is about 10 bags of salt and eletric for a saltwaterchlorinated pool.. plus cleaning. Maintenance not included..

 

I would say eletric about 3500 for your size and 10 bags of salt at 140 baht pr. bag=1400. Mainenance or cleaning done not by yourself is around 2000 baht a month. It does matter of course how much the pool is used and if its rainy season etc.. No makeup from women or no peeing is essential.. Also no sunscreen of course...It also needs a little bit of water..if you have an overflow and not a "normal" skimmer that is under the pool top..

 

All grand total about 6-7000 thb. 

 

If you have a garden... add a thousand or more depending on size to the maintenance..Prepare to change grout about every three years which would be around 25000 or less.

 

Just my experience....

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6 minutes ago, paahlman said:

As far as I see.. It is about 10 bags of salt and eletric for a saltwaterchlorinated pool.. plus cleaning. Maintenance not included..

 

I would say eletric about 3500 for your size and 10 bags of salt at 140 baht pr. bag=1400. Mainenance or cleaning done not by yourself is around 2000 baht a month. It does matter of course how much the pool is used and if its rainy season etc.. No makeup from women or no peeing is essential.. Also no sunscreen of course...It also needs a little bit of water..if you have an overflow and not a "normal" skimmer that is under the pool top..

 

All grand total about 6-7000 thb. 

 

If you have a garden... add a thousand or more depending on size to the maintenance..Prepare to change grout about every three years which would be around 25000 or less.

 

Just my experience....

In what way does sunscreen affect a pool ? If one could skip the make part and ask the "visiting cuties" to wash up before they dive, sunscreen is essential even when in the water ? Could you please explain, if you have a moment please ? Thank you.

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The pool would not be big 20 x 8 mtr s that is bigger than some resorts although 1.2 mtr deep is a little shallow I would suggest at least 1.4 mtr mine is 16 x 3 x 1.45  . I have a 1.5 hp variable speed pump a Cartridge Filter and a Nano UV/ ozone system which is like swimming in fresh water , no stingy eyes or horrible taste if you swallow some water the uv/ozone system even kills urine running costs Depends on how long you run it for and what you pay for your electric my bill is direct from PEA so it’s not expensive but if you live on a development where your electric is determined by the management company it could be pretty expensive . Choosing the right equipment and the right system can reduce your monthly running costs . The uv/ozone even cleans suncreams / oils but if your building a pool put a shower next to the pool.

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On 10/17/2018 at 8:46 AM, Bagwain said:

Attached is an article I wrote for a real estate magazine on salt chlorination.

I have available technology from Australia that uses Pink Himalayan salt and the system uses 2 active oxygen molecules to sanitise the water.  Fantastic for the skin with 89 minerals & no harsh chemicals.

Are you looking after your swimming pool.pdf

Himalayan pink salt is wonderful for the skin but is not to easy to find in Thailand I buy a small jar in Makro for cooking purposes but as I said getting big bags of it for the swimming pool I found to be very difficult.

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20 m. Is quite big. We have 10m. X 5m.  Salt water with chlorinenater,  every month we add 1 sac off salt (170 baht). Cleaning, we have a robot,(between 60.000 a 80.000 baht, depends on model) put in 3 times in 14 days.

when you do hand cleaning,need to do 2 times a week (about 1 hour). Pool service will do between 500 a 1500 baht.

Salt pool is more skin friendly. If you keep Chl.and Ph good, no need to change water for years and years.

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Many thanks for all of your replies, most helpful.  As I said I was only toying with the idea but given some of the feedback on running costs it looks like that I shall need to consider a smaller pool.

I do have some mobility difficulty now, hence my thoughts of a pool for relaxation. There are no pool maintenance companies within many many kilometers so maintenance could be problematical for for.  A Robot cleaner was mentioned but would I be correct in saying that that is only a skimmer ?  Do the floor and sides of the pool require regular mechanical cleaning because that would be a problem for me to do ?

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2 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

Many thanks for all of your replies, most helpful.  As I said I was only toying with the idea but given some of the feedback on running costs it looks like that I shall need to consider a smaller pool.

I do have some mobility difficulty now, hence my thoughts of a pool for relaxation. There are no pool maintenance companies within many many kilometers so maintenance could be problematical for for.  A Robot cleaner was mentioned but would I be correct in saying that that is only a skimmer ?  Do the floor and sides of the pool require regular mechanical cleaning because that would be a problem for me to do ?

From my experience pool robot is not enough to clean the pool floor and walls ( which is robot will be connected to the skimmer or so and will clean the floor as long as you run the pump. Pool robot is not a device that you need to put in the pool 3 times a week or once a week. it should be in the water all the time so it will suck the dirt,leaves etc from the bottom of the pool when pump kicks in). No matter what, you have to brush the walls and floor at least  ones a week if you want to keep your pool in good shape for many years. Once you learn the required amount of salt ( if you are planning to have salt water pool ) and chemicals need to keep your pool clean and sanitized, then you don't need to hire anybody to maintain it. You need to run the pool pump about 12 hrs a ( any pool shop or google search can tell you the amount of electricity pump will use for an hour , then you can calculate the amount for the day and month, then you can find out how much the pump will cost you to run it) day to prevent building up algae etc. since this is a sunshine country. I had 30,000 gallons ( 143.400 lt) pool in my las vegas,USA house and 2.5 HP variable pump was running 18 hrs a day during the summer and 8 hrs a day during the winter. Having a pool is not a cheap hobby in any country. But above ground pool is way more cheaper than in ground pool to maintain it and way cheaper initial cost. I also recommend sand filter for any pool fresh water pool since there Is no filters to clean or replace. Just replace the sand every 7 yrs or so which is less costly than the other filter systems.

Regards.

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I used to build swimming pools in Hawaii few years ago.

 Salt water pools are way better. Almost zero maintenence.

 Chlorinated pools are pain in the arse

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On 10/18/2018 at 11:21 AM, observer90210 said:

In what way does sunscreen affect a pool ? If one could skip the make part and ask the "visiting cuties" to wash up before they dive, sunscreen is essential even when in the water ? Could you please explain, if you have a moment please ? Thank you.

Sunscreen is seldom 100% waterproof so it will stay in the pool. Some of it that is.. The "fat" from the cream will stay on top like a grey layer and takes some time to clean. Its not bad for the pool... Its just not so clear. I have seen this myself some times, but in the beginning people told me this. Its not only ramblings from my side. Then again.. If you choose to have sunscreen in your pool do it.

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On 10/20/2018 at 1:32 PM, paahlman said:

Sunscreen is seldom 100% waterproof so it will stay in the pool. Some of it that is.. The "fat" from the cream will stay on top like a grey layer and takes some time to clean. Its not bad for the pool... Its just not so clear. I have seen this myself some times, but in the beginning people told me this. Its not only ramblings from my side. Then again.. If you choose to have sunscreen in your pool do it.

Just creates scum lines in sides of the pool and effects the salt chlorinator cell plates. When the plates are covered in oil they won't produce chlorine. So even self cleaning as most are now, they only "by opposite polarisation", take off calcium buildup. So the cells need cleaning with dish washing liquid at least yearly!

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4 hours ago, Bagwain said:

Just creates scum lines in sides of the pool and effects the salt chlorinator cell plates. When the plates are covered in oil they won't produce chlorine. So even self cleaning as most are now, they only "by opposite polarisation", take off calcium buildup. So the cells need cleaning with dish washing liquid at least yearly!

Good advice Bagwain..Will inspect the cells.. Are they easy to reach... or see? Just take off the plastic lid and one can see it..? I mean. I know the chlorinators comes in different styles.. Mine is in a cigar tube plastic container for example...

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11 hours ago, paahlman said:

Good advice Bagwain..Will inspect the cells.. Are they easy to reach... or see? Just take off the plastic lid and one can see it..? I mean. I know the chlorinators comes in different styles.. Mine is in a cigar tube plastic container for example...

Attached picture of a typical cell. In most cases you don't need to disassemble the cell , just take it off the pipes. Just put a few drops of dish washing liquid in and some water & shake it to get all the fat & oil of the plates. 

chlor_cell_new.jpg

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