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BANGKOK 14 November 2018 04:07
Covertjay

M Ed from Framingham State University Bangkok Cohort

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Hi there,

 

I'm looking into doing the Master of Education Concentration in International Teaching based at BCC in Bangkok.

 

It seems good, but I was wondering if anyone has first hand first hand experience with it and would they recommend it?  

 

Many thanks!

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I know some people who did it a few years ago and have had a  salary increase, but they have struggled to get into any higher level schools. A few of them still work in the EP at BCC or ACP across the road. 

 

I guess it depends on where you want to try and work. I also know a few people who have done the PGCEi and obtained jobs at better places such as mid - lower international schools. 

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I used to think it was a really decent program as online blended learning goes. Lots of teachers, even in intl schools do it. But recently I've run into two teachers who I really wished they were nowhere near a classroom. Plenty of crap teachers in US as well. Still I was shocked. The irony is they appear to think they are good teachers. Kids seem to really dislike both.

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On 10/27/2018 at 9:23 PM, ozmeldo said:

I used to think it was a really decent program as online blended learning goes. Lots of teachers, even in intl schools do it. But recently I've run into two teachers who I really wished they were nowhere near a classroom. Plenty of crap teachers in US as well. Still I was shocked. The irony is they appear to think they are good teachers. Kids seem to really dislike both.

 

To be fair, I've also met crap teachers with degrees in education from top 100 universities in the US and the UK. I think the common denominator is simply being crap!

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My apologies, I thought this was a different blended program from another running thread. I've no idea about the program. But if Chulalongkorn is #1 and has QS 800. Where is this school in ranking?

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2 hours ago, ozmeldo said:

My apologies, I thought this was a different blended program from another running thread. I've no idea about the program. But if Chulalongkorn is #1 and has QS 800. Where is this school in ranking?

 

Which one were you thinking of? I know quite a few programs are now being offered here from US universities, but all of them are on-site, with the professors being flown in when the courses are running. NIST has two going: the College of New Jersey and SUNY Buffalo. Bangkok Prep has Endicott College, and Framingham is now at both Wells and Bangkok Christian College. The UK-based University of Nottingham has a PGCEi that is primarily online with one required physical meeting.

 

Out of all of these, Framingham and the College of New Jersey programs are probably the most intensive (purely in respect to stress), as the sessions are in two-week blocks and run the whole day. SUNY Buffalo is the highest-ranked university, but they're all decent schools, even if not ranked as high as Chula. (Frankly, I'd take any of them over Chula just because of the cultural differences and the style of learning in US university programs.)

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The two individuals had degrees from Framingham but BCC I've no idea so do not want to disparage the school.

 

I'm totally aware people slip thru the cracks. This is why online learning has such a reputation. In fairness to Framingham, their submitted work could have been fine. They are just lost in the classroom and students actually dislike them. It's not necessarily a knock in the school but it definitely did nit make those two any better teachers.

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Yes, I've heard instructors are being flown in. That's excellent. I'd go with NIST personally, they are going to be certain it's all top drawer.

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On 10/26/2018 at 9:51 AM, BobbyL said:

I also know a few people who have done the PGCEi and obtained jobs at better places such as mid - lower international schools. 

Cheers, have the PGCEi already but looking to go a bit further. Nottingham want 300k up (for a masters) now which is very expensive.  

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On 11/2/2018 at 8:26 AM, IntEdSource said:

The UK-based University of Nottingham has a PGCEi that is primarily online with one required physical meeting.

 

Out of all of these, Framingham and the College of New Jersey programs are probably the most intensive (purely in respect to stress), as the sessions are in two-week blocks and run the whole day. SUNY Buffalo is the highest-ranked university, but they're all decent schools, even if not ranked as high as Chula. (Frankly, I'd take any of them over Chula just because of the cultural differences and the style of learning in US university programs.)

Nottingham, at the time I did my PGCEi five years ago, was 6th in the UK, 67th in the world and a top 20 education department. It was very academically rigorous, but also incredibly beneficial. Anything in the 800s worries me a little to be honest. 

 

Does anyone know the SUNY Buffalo rankings or have any personal experience with their program?

 

Many thanks.  

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