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AllanB

Enfield Himalayan 411

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Unfortunately the model offered in Thailand has no abs.

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On 11/6/2018 at 4:41 PM, Kinnock said:

Unfortunately the model offered in Thailand has no abs.

Any idea of the price?

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7 hours ago, AllanB said:

Any idea of the price?

170,000 THB I think.

 

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Had an Enfield 500 Bullet back in 2009 (one of the last ones to be sold "new"). Still the old version with 4 gears right hand side, drum brakes (duplex front-brake), the ingenious feature to shift from 4th to idle, and the horrible carburator and ignition coil that stopped it every once in a while against expectation. But the sound, the driving-experience and the spirit that came with it was great. Loved it. Looking at this new Himalayan 411, whithout knowing how it runs, I think, I´d prefer another (whatsoever) brand, because they all look the same. Matter of price and performance and spare parts

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10 hours ago, pikao said:

Had an Enfield 500 Bullet back in 2009 (one of the last ones to be sold "new"). Still the old version with 4 gears right hand side, drum brakes (duplex front-brake), the ingenious feature to shift from 4th to idle, and the horrible carburator and ignition coil that stopped it every once in a while against expectation. But the sound, the driving-experience and the spirit that came with it was great. Loved it. Looking at this new Himalayan 411, whithout knowing how it runs, I think, I´d prefer another (whatsoever) brand, because they all look the same. Matter of price and performance and spare parts

What I really like is the engine note, low rpm torque, the low seat height/centre of gravity, much better when offroading (at low speed) and the fact that it is built for the Himalayan terrain. What i don't like is the poor top end speed and harshness at high rpm.

 

All based on hearsay, I might add.

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4 minutes ago, AllanB said:

and the fact that it is built for the Himalayan terrain. What i don't like is the poor top end speed and harshness at high rpm.

 

All based on hearsay, I might add.

It is another 'ADV' bike

Same HP as your CRF, 10Nm more torque

It is produced for the Himalayan terrain ??? ... the same as your CRF was produced so girls can ride around the world on one ???

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6 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

It is another 'ADV' bike

Same HP as your CRF, 10Nm more torque

It is produced for the Himalayan terrain ??? ... the same as your CRF was produced so girls can ride around the world on one ???

What you are quoting is peak bhp and torque which are meaningless, the whole problem with the CRF is that there is no torque at low rpm, where I need it. Indeed, my little Lifan was better in that respect. The CRF would be useless in the Himalayas, where there are many rocky roads and river clossings. You (read I) need to get your feet down, I am 6 foot and can't do that easily on my CRF and the CofG is way too high.  

 

Stef, who you refer to as a "girl" has done more than all the "boys" on this forum put together, so hardly just a "girl". I must say that she is one of the reasons I bought my CRF, didn't join the dots when it came to our different requirments.

 

So the plan is to leave the CRF to someone who can use it as intended. Someone younger who wants to dance over the bumps on his own.

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13 minutes ago, AllanB said:

The CRF would be useless in the Himalayas, where there are many rocky roads and river clossings.

I have a feeling that the CRF250L would woop an Enfield's arse in the above scenarios....

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1 hour ago, AllanB said:

 I am 6 foot and can't do that easily on my CRF and the CofG is way too high. 

I am 1.9 M and have no problem. Flat foot it even with an AirHawk

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1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

I have a feeling that the CRF250L would woop an Enfield's arse in the above scenarios....

Only if you are confident enough to ride through a rocky river with your feet on the pegs, most amateurs prefer arse planted in the seat, feet as outriggers.

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1 hour ago, AllanB said:

 The CRF would be useless in the Himalayas, where there are many rocky roads and river clossings.requirments.

RE front suspension travel - 7.87" CRF - 9.8"

RE rear - 7.08" CRF - 9.4"

RE ground clearance - 8.6" CRF - 10"

Now tell me which would be a better performer in rocky roads and river crossings

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1 minute ago, canthai55 said:

RE front suspension travel - 7.87" CRF - 9.8"

RE rear - 7.08" CRF - 9.4"

RE ground clearance - 8.6" CRF - 10"

Now tell me which would be a better performer in rocky roads and river crossings

So you are saying suspension travel and ground clearance is everything? 

 

I would suggest that if you have a rock that requires 10" of suspension travel, better to steer around it. Long travel is only important for jumping.

 

Low centre of gravity and low seat height is much more important.

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25 minutes ago, AllanB said:

Only if you are confident enough to ride through a rocky river with your feet on the pegs, most amateurs prefer arse planted in the seat, feet as outriggers.

And they look like complete numpties that should not even be off road.

It is not the way you would be taught at an off road school.

Just stop coming out with daft, silly statements please.

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