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l4ml4m

Gastritis best treatment, only eat healthy food and stop alcohol ? Did it work ?

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hello,

 

I have a gastritis and have tried to take some of the usual treatments and pills that hospitals give, but it seems that they are actually quite useless and that what is important is to eat healthy food and stop alcohol or anything else bad for stomach linen, can you confirm ?

 

I have no strong symptoms but feel like a wound in the stomach and doctor seems sure that it's a gastritis.

I have tested and I do not have h-pylori infection, so it's cleat that my gastritis is caused by bad eating habits and alcohol.

 

I am wondering if anybody has been able to cure a gastritis by just changing his lifestyle, as the meds that doctors give seem not only useless but also really not safe.

 

I am really thinking that I should do something as I have it for years and it might not be a good idea to keep a wound in my stomach linen forever.

 

Any idea or recommendation ?

 

Thank you all for your help and experience sharing.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastritis

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gastritis/symptoms-causes/syc-20355807

 

https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-gastritis

 

 

 

 

 

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Have you had a gastroscopy?

 

If not you should to confirm the diagnosis and rule out anything else.

 

if you did have a gastroscopy, what were the exact findings? (post copy here, blocking out your name)

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3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Have you had a gastroscopy?

 

If not you should to confirm the diagnosis and rule out anything else.

 

if you did have a gastroscopy, what were the exact findings? (post copy here, blocking out your name)

 

Thank you but no, doctors said that I don't need it and I also think that I don't.

 

Everybody whom I know in this life who did one didn't find anything and it was pure waste of money.

Do you know anybody who had real problems when doctors were thinking that it was just a gastritis ?

 

I do not want to have one done and would first like to hear experience of people who cured a gastritis thanks to a healthy lifestyle.

 

Thank you again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Have you had a gastroscopy?

 

If not you should to confirm the diagnosis and rule out anything else.

 

if you did have a gastroscopy, what were the exact findings? (post copy here, blocking out your name)

If it is bad, you may need a scope. I had a scope done, told me I had gastritis, put on the right medication, just ate clean foods and it went away. Just to be safe, I would also get an Ultra Sound done as well. Get them to check your Gallballder. Mine was slowly leaking and gave me signs also later on like acute gastritis. The same type of pain but it slowly got worse until I had very bad attacks that I thought were just GERD related but were indeed not. 

 

Eating clean and losing weight helps a lot. Not drinking also is good but if you are very uncomfortable, a scope does help as they can really tell you IF it is gastritis or something else.  

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2 hours ago, l4ml4m said:

 

Thank you but no, doctors said that I don't need it and I also think that I don't.

 

Everybody whom I know in this life who did one didn't find anything and it was pure waste of money.

Do you know anybody who had real problems when doctors were thinking that it was just a gastritis ?

 

I do not want to have one done and would first like to hear experience of people who cured a gastritis thanks to a healthy lifestyle.

 

Thank you again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If a gastroscopy shows nothing then the person did  NOT have gastritis nor an ulcer ("wound" in the stomach or duodenum).

 

I had a gastroscopy and it found gastritis, an ulcer and h. pylori infection. All of which were then successfully treated.

 

i know several people who had gastroscopies that found gastric cancer. Some in time for successful treatment/cure and some not.

 

Your diagnosis is questionable and unconfirmed making the question of how to cure it somewhat pointless.

 

How by the way was h. pylori excluded? Most gastritis is due to h. pylori, if you had a reliable test that was negative then that is further reason to doubt you actually have gastritis.

 

What exactly do you mean by: " have no strong symptoms but feel like a wound in the stomach". ?  Where exactly in your abdomen do you feel this and what makes you say it feels like a "wound"?

 

Gastritis symptoms would usually be described as pretty strong. So much so that they can mimic a heart attack.

 

 

 

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There is a way to find out if it is gastritis or a duodenal ulcer or similar. This might also solve your problems. Take omeprazol 40 mg before breakfast for 3 weeks. If the symptoms disappear the diagnosis is likely an acid correlated gastric problem (Ulcer, gastritis, duodenitis, GERD, hiatus hernia) if they don't or come back you definitely need gastroscopy . If that comes up negative coronary heart disease pancreas and gallbadder problem needs to be ruled out. (instead of omeprazole you could use any of the other PPI like pantoprazole, lansoprazol, esopromazol - they are newer, more espensive but similar efective - no use to waste money). 

Handle stress, stop smoking, have a healthy diet - no acid stuff, no hot spices, no high percent alcohol, no sugar, no full stomach at night, would be quite useful as well.  

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13 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

There is a way to find out if it is gastritis or a duodenal ulcer or similar. This might also solve your problems. Take omeprazol 40 mg before breakfast for 3 weeks. If the symptoms disappear the diagnosis is likely an acid correlated gastric problem (Ulcer, gastritis, duodenitis, GERD, hiatus hernia) if they don't or come back you definitely need gastroscopy . If that comes up negative coronary heart disease pancreas and gallbadder problem needs to be ruled out. (instead of omeprazole you could use any of the other PPI like pantoprazole, lansoprazol, esopromazol - they are newer, more espensive but similar efective - no use to waste money). 

Handle stress, stop smoking, have a healthy diet - no acid stuff, no hot spices, no high percent alcohol, no full stomach at night, would be quite useful as well.  

 

People take omeprazole all their life and never get cured, this is totally useless.

 

Yes, I still think that there is nothing else to do but eat well and stop drinking for months or years.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

If a gastroscopy shows nothing then the person did  NOT have gastritis nor an ulcer ("wound" in the stomach or duodenum).

 

I had a gastroscopy and it found gastritis, an ulcer and h. pylori infection. All of which were then successfully treated.

 

i know several people who had gastroscopies that found gastric cancer. Some in time for successful treatment/cure and some not.

 

Your diagnosis is questionable and unconfirmed making the question of how to cure it somewhat pointless.

 

How by the way was h. pylori excluded? Most gastritis is due to h. pylori, if you had a reliable test that was negative then that is further reason to doubt you actually have gastritis.

 

What exactly do you mean by: " have no strong symptoms but feel like a wound in the stomach". ?  Where exactly in your abdomen do you feel this and what makes you say it feels like a "wound"?

 

Gastritis symptoms would usually be described as pretty strong. So much so that they can mimic a heart attack.

 

 

 

 

 

So before even trying to have a healthy lifestyle you burn 40000 thb for a useless gastroscropy ?

 

So many people around internet have gastritis caused by food and not by h pilory, included me.

 

It's weird that you do not know that eating more spicy than Thai for years and drinking more than reasonably hurt stomach linen, which is a gastritis ?!

 

Sorry if I am wrong but this is what ALL doctors that I have seen told me and what I have read everywhere online.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

If a gastroscopy shows nothing then the person did  NOT have gastritis nor an ulcer ("wound" in the stomach or duodenum).

 

I had a gastroscopy and it found gastritis, an ulcer and h. pylori infection. All of which were then successfully treated.

 

i know several people who had gastroscopies that found gastric cancer. Some in time for successful treatment/cure and some not.

 

Your diagnosis is questionable and unconfirmed making the question of how to cure it somewhat pointless.

 

How by the way was h. pylori excluded? Most gastritis is due to h. pylori, if you had a reliable test that was negative then that is further reason to doubt you actually have gastritis.

 

What exactly do you mean by: " have no strong symptoms but feel like a wound in the stomach". ?  Where exactly in your abdomen do you feel this and what makes you say it feels like a "wound"?

 

Gastritis symptoms would usually be described as pretty strong. So much so that they can mimic a heart attack.

 

 

 

 

 

I visited 5 doctors, 3 in public hospitals and 2 in private.

 

3 public doctors told me that I didn't need a gastroscopy even when I told them that I was ready to pay.

2 private doctors told me that I needed a gastroscopy even when I told them that I was NOT ready to pay.

 

For the 3 public doctors it was clear that at 40 years old it cannot be anything but a gastritis, especially with my bad eating habits.

2 private doctors didn't want to tell what it is before doing a gastroscopy...

 

To make it clear I almost feel nothing except maybe when I have an empty stomach, and it's not even a pain, it's like if I had cut 2cm of skin n my arm, not a pain, just feel it.

 

Since years that I have it I have not been able to stop the bad habits, this is why I still have it I guess.

It seems that it can take months of healthy life to be able to cure it, which is quite logic and seems easy to understand: if I put some alcohol on a wound on my arm it will take longer to heal also...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

they never get cured for reasons, like their problem is not caused by hyperacity but by other problems, they take it on and off just as a symptom killer not in the proper dose, they continue their damaging lifestyle, they have h.p infection which needs more than omeprazole etc.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. If you have no expertise you'd better be quiet.

 

 

Nice to meet another doctor, but as it is me who has posted the question, I can comment as much as I want, and you are not invited to reply if you have nothing smart to tell. Thank you.

 

 

 

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Google “L-glutamine for gastritis”.  I found it helps.  Healthy diet is also very important.

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13 hours ago, l4ml4m said:

I have a gastritis and have tried to take some of the usual treatments and pills that hospitals give, but it seems that they are actually quite useless and that what is important is to eat healthy food and stop alcohol or anything else bad for stomach linen, can you confirm ?

More to the point, have you tried it?  You won't know until you've ventured there yourself, obviously.  

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If you're over 50 a gastroscopy is advisable.

 

I have been diagnosed with gastritis and have had a gastroscopy (THB 15k), the results showed stomach bleeding and the treatment was acid reduction treatment AND importantly, a change in diet. Give up caffeine, alcohol, spicy and fried foods and the problem goes away. Another factor in my case is that living in the tropics results in slowed metabolism which means food passes more slowly through the digestive system and results in excessive bacterial buildup, excess acid and bloating - diet adjustment and exercise can help cure that problem. 

 

If it helps, I had a similar sensation to what you've described and was right of centre, below the rib cage, vertically above the appendix. I'll add here that a gastroscopy is completely painless, a walk in the park that causes much-unjustified anxiety.

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