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BANGKOK 14 November 2018 20:01
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Phoenix recovery team yet to arrive

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5 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I'm struggling to employ "the temporary suspension of disbelief" over the fact that the Tourist Police and BJ are involved in this salvage operation.

Well let's be pragmatic, IMHO the officers who should have this under control don't now what to do and never will, so no action...

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I haven’t been following this salvage op but if you put the bags inside the vessel it’s very possible it will just rip the deck off a boat is not designed to be supported this way if the crane arriving has the capacity to lift it deadweight it is definitely the way to go provided the vessel can be cradled properly.does the new team have a decompression chamber aboard there barge it’s way safer if the divers can decompress in the can so to speak please don’t kill anybody else it’s not worth it good luck keep it safe

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18 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

Did they find someone who actually knows what they are doing this time?

Yes, they have Big Joke and it will take 5 days.

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15 hours ago, Tug said:

if you put the bags inside the vessel it’s very possible it will just rip the deck off a boat is not designed to be supported this way if the crane arriving has the capacity to lift it deadweight it is definitely the way to go provided the vessel can be cradled properly

You don't need a crane, you need to pump out enough water and replace it with air, it's a boat it's made for floating....

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44 minutes ago, MekkOne said:

You don't need a crane, you need to pump out enough water and replace it with air, it's a boat it's made for floating....

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

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38 minutes ago, Kopitiam said:

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

holy moly how we managed to rise the Costa Concordia??? just read how it works... how you plan to pick up a boat with a crane from the bottom of the ocean? Do you have idea how much does it weight???

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41 minutes ago, Kopitiam said:

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

BTW the hull of the boat is perfectly integer, so if you call a team of experts instead of a bunch of monkeys rise the Phoenix will be piece of cake...

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3 hours ago, MekkOne said:

holy moly how we managed to rise the Costa Concordia??? just read how it works... how you plan to pick up a boat with a crane from the bottom of the ocean? Do you have idea how much does it weight???

The Costa Concordia was not submerged underwater.  Therefore you can pump out the water.  You cannot pump water out of a boat that is laying under water!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster

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2 hours ago, Kopitiam said:

The Costa Concordia was not submerged underwater.  Therefore you can pump out the water.  You cannot pump water out of a boat that is laying under water!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster

I'm sorry, you're wrong, you can, just need the right people that know how to do it, that's it. Nobody in this country has never attempted to salvage a boat from the bottom of the ocean and they are to proud to ask for help to somebody that knows how to do it, so all this is pointless, with a crane they'll never rise that boat because there are 45 kilograms per square centimeter pushing the boat to the bottom of the ocean. Thay will never move it if they don't remove the water from inside it.

 

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3 hours ago, MekkOne said:

I'm sorry, you're wrong, you can, just need the right people that know how to do it, that's it. Nobody in this country has never attempted to salvage a boat from the bottom of the ocean and they are to proud to ask for help to somebody that knows how to do it, so all this is pointless, with a crane they'll never rise that boat because there are 45 kilograms per square centimeter pushing the boat to the bottom of the ocean. Thay will never move it if they don't remove the water from inside it.

 

Please enlighten me how you can pump water out of a boat that is laying submerged underwater?

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MekkO1 you could use your idea in very shallow water this one is way to deep the pressure differintal would crush the hull kinda like a submarine that went to deep.another way to do it is filling it with lift bags but you run into the problem of how boats are made on a vessel this size and weight it would most likely lift the deck off also using this method it is very hard to control the assent it is by far easyer to and safer to pick it up provided the crane is large enough it minimizes dive time and you can control the assent let’s hope they can bring it to a safe successful conclusion this has cost way to much blood and treasure

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