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BANGKOK 12 December 2018 23:48
thaibeachlovers

How is T21 doing?

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Don't get on TVF much these days, so if I missed the thread about it, apologies.

Anyway, I gather T21 is finally open, so wondering how many of my forecasts came true. Is it much, much more popular than Central, and has Central's customer base dwindled to minimal?

Is it as good as the Bkk one, and is it the place for burd watching now?

Perhaps one day I'll get to see for myself, but don't know when that'll happen, if ever.

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Busy on weekends but not so much on weekdays so avoid weekends if possible. Food choices excellent. Prefer Bangkok T21 small shops and the basement floor. Seems like every 2nd small store in Pattaya T21 sells diffusers. I get it since the mark up on them must be over 1000 percent. T21 should have limited the number of the same types of stores. Worth visiting to get out of the hot weather. 

 

Baht bus wanting to be taxis a huge issue. They sit in the bus stop not letting legit 10 baht buses pick up and drop off passengers. There is also one motorbike taxi driver there who is very rude to people who walk by him and don't take motorbikes. Huge turn off for tourists. 

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3 hours ago, AlexCanada said:

 

 

Baht bus wanting to be taxis a huge issue. They sit in the bus stop not letting legit 10 baht buses pick up and drop off passengers. There is also one motorbike taxi driver there who is very rude to people who walk by him and don't take motorbikes. Huge turn off for tourists. 

? You seem to be confusing T21 with Central at the beach rd. bus stop where these taxi and songkow jerks double park/park. By the way the yellow taxi have no license to park in these zones. There are also "brown pickups " that hog that zone too. T21 is clear on Pattaya Nua for songkows in front of gate 4. 

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Went today and had a quick look round and then had lunch in the foodcourt on the 3rd Floor - Pier 21.

 

The food court I thought was very busy for a Tuesday and I would hate to be there at the weekend with all the tables being so close. Some of the other restaurants had a few patrons and others were completely empty but there are a huge number of restaurants - especially seemed to be a lot of Japanese style.

 

Generally a fair number of people, but spread out, and few shops with customers in that I noticed - but maybe they were all eating :smile:

 

Overall did not appear as busy to me as Central usually is but there is a lot more space so difficult to say and not been to Central for a few weeks to compare.

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anyway, I gather T21 is finally open, so wondering how many of my forecasts came true. Is it much, much more popular than Central, and has Central's customer base dwindled to minimal?

No , Central is still popular and will always be. 

 

But there is a market for both malls, I see a lot more Thais inside T21 than foreigners, also more Asians like Chinese and Koreans because of all the great food choices for them. 

 

I live nearby so I visit almost daily during my exercise , and it's never been empty , seem to be a lot of people walking around. But if they buy something is another matter.  

Some restaurants are always busy , others are empty. Foodland seem to be doing well. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

a very beautiful mall

This only proves to me that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!:biggrin:

I went there just after it opened (and a couple of times since) and could not see any point to it personally. I feel sorry for the people working there and wondered then if it would survive. 

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We went on Sunday and it was mayhem. Went back Monday for lunch and it was much quieter. I think it will die down after a month or so when the novelty wears off and the opening sales finish. Trying to park the bike was a nightmare. 

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3 hours ago, topt said:

I went there just after it opened (and a couple of times since) and could not see any point to it personally. ...

If it's all so pointless, why the two successive visits?

 

3 hours ago, topt said:

I feel sorry for the people working there... 

You feel sorry for people working in a clean, air-conditioned and busy workplace to make a living?

 

3 hours ago, topt said:

...and wondered then if it would survive. 

Are you one of those that reckoned Central Festival was doomed or going to collapse just after it opened?

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Just what Pattaya needed another shopping mall, selling the same old garbage. Be another white elephant in 3 years.

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4 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Slightly off topic.

I visited the "Harbour" shopping mall yesterday to see how it was doing (was at the opening).

  It was devastating...a very beautiful mall with all the latest "gagets" for adults and children. I went through every floor ...not a sinner of a customer. The place was like a morgue. Staff all bored silly. It has the facilities to be a wonderful mall....the whole experience was simply depressing...so so sad 

Rents too high.

Electronic section is a RIP off. 

Wanted a laptop keyboard. 

Asus. 

1500 he said. 2100 installed. 

Would not sell it to me as a part.

Same connection ribbon. 

Worth 40 baht ex China. 

600 baht but he had to also fit it.

 

The whole joint has got a bad reputation. 

Top floor closing.

Hard to get customers back once they go. 

Yes it's sad really. 

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4 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Slightly off topic.

I visited the "Harbour" shopping mall yesterday to see how it was doing (was at the opening).

  It was devastating...a very beautiful mall with all the latest "gagets" for adults and children. I went through every floor ...not a sinner of a customer. The place was like a morgue. Staff all bored silly. It has the facilities to be a wonderful mall....the whole experience was simply depressing...so so sad 

Though I recall that when Harbour opened there were several posters who ridiculed everyone who said it was a white elephant.

 

They seem to very quiet lately, although at least one of them is active in this thread

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4 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Slightly off topic.

I visited the "Harbour" shopping mall yesterday to see how it was doing (was at the opening).

  It was devastating...a very beautiful mall with all the latest "gagets" for adults and children. I went through every floor ...not a sinner of a customer. The place was like a morgue. Staff all bored silly. It has the facilities to be a wonderful mall....the whole experience was simply depressing...so so sad 

There tends to be a few in Harbour at weekends, mainly for all the children's activities on the upper floors, but in the week it is always very quiet. Every time we go with the daughter all of the shops look absolutely dead, also a number of units have already been vacated.

It will be interesting to see what happens now T21 has also opened.

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