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BANGKOK 17 December 2018 09:15
jochen

My embassy doesn't legalize degrees - what now ?

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I recently started a new job.  As all paperwork to get a new non-B wasn't ready yet, I had to go abroad to get a tourist visa.  As soon as I came back to whole process to change the tourist visa into a non-B  was started.  

All paperwork has been checked and approved by Chachoengsao Immigration, except that they now also demand a legalized copy of my master's degree, but the Belgian Embassy says they cannot do this.  The only solution would be to go back to Belgium and get it legalized there, which seems a bit far and expensive to serve as a solution.

 

Does anyone have any similar experiences with their embassy, as the Belgian Embassy probably isn't the only one refusing to do this.

 

Even to get my teacher's license from Krusapa, this wasn't needed.  They were satisfied with a certified copy of the degree. I asked and showed immigration this, but they didn't accept it without looking at it or actually listening to me.

Things seem very strict here at Chachoengsao, in a way that it's nearly impossible.

 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thx.

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IN my experience, going back to 1996, embassies have never authenticated degrees.

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What now?

Go back to your country, and get your documents sorted. Amazing some people here think they can get by without following the rules, leads to all sorts of issues and problems for the rest of us.


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Going back home and legalizing  is a lot of hassle for a low salary.

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My experience with French embassy.

They certified my Master's degree even though it was a photocopy of it (they were not really happy about it but Photocopy look genuine and I had a letter of the dean with his private number in case they wanted to call him).

 

Not sure if I can still do it now but I guess many embassies does it.

 

Also, be careful if you go back to Belgium to certify it as immigration might refuse it saying " it has to be certified by your embassy in Bangkok"

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16 minutes ago, dabhand said:

The British Embassy discontinued that same service earlier this year. This thread may have some relevant info, even though your case is obviously related to Belgium.

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1048649-getting-your-uk-degree-certified/

 

 

Yes, it is indeed the same problem.

 

I thought I had already given them everything they asked for when applying for my Krusapa teacher's license, but no, now immigration asks for another thing again.

 

And yes, I can do it... again.  But it is a lot of hassle, time-consuming and expensive.  And I don't have enough time to do it as fast as they require now. And they won't ever read it anyway, they just want to see that stamp from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the degree.  Apparently some nationalities can just swear it is their degree in their embassy, get all the necessary stamps, but it doesn't really mean anything, the degree hasn't been checked at all.  But it is accepted.....

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Do your countries' universities not issue sealed official transcripts of your education? In the US, it is common practice for schools and some employers to request proof of degrees. Usually, a call to your university and the purchase of a transcript will send a sealed and stamped official copy of your courses, grades and degrees granted directly to whatever entity wants to know.

 

Here there may be some issue about translation of the transcripts; but it would appear logical--oh, there I go again--to simply charge the applicant a translation fee. 

 

A problem is, some of the degree mills, for an additional fee, will also send transcripts for the fake degrees they sell. So, there may be an issue.

 

In the US, if there is any doubt, the employer/school simply checks the regional accrediting agencies to verify the legitimacy of the school issuing the transcripts and may even call the school for verification.

 

That all may be too complicated for use here.

 

 

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Did not know degrees needed to he legalized in Thailand now... Must he a new regulation or they are being hardcore with you... No Embassies can legalize this inside Thailand.. You can however search companies that do this for you in your country...  It may take having the school issue a new copy and then the company takes it to get legalized and then mails it to you when it's all finished.. 

I had to do this to get my education documents legalized for work in China.. 

If you do end up having to get the school to send a new copy... Make sure it has the requirements asked for by the education ministry.. check online for that. 

I believe Thailand accepts an apostle for the degree.. They are still members of the Hague agreement I think

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5 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

What now?

Go back to your country, and get your documents sorted. Amazing some people here think they can get by without following the rules, leads to all sorts of issues and problems for the rest of us.


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:cheesy::cheesy: How can anyone follow any rules when all the Immigration offices have their own, some just made up by officers as they go along?:cheesy:

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In Holland we need to go to the C.D.C. Center to get it legalized and then go to the Thai embassy in Holland to get the legalized document legalized by the Thai embassy 

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11 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

:cheesy::cheesy: How can anyone follow any rules when all the Immigration offices have their own, some just made up by officers as they go along?:cheesy:

This is nothing to do with Immigration offices and made up rules. The ruling actually comes from the MFA I think you will find. All documents like these that originate outside Thailand now have to be legalised/notarised in the country of origin. I have just gone through this process with a Death Certificate. This had to be sent to the FCO in Milton Keynes for notarising then couriered to The Royal Thai Embassy in London for legalising before having it sent back here. Took about 2 and a half weeks to get this all done. Worst part is you need family or friends in the UK to help with the last part of paying the Thai Embassy and arranging the courier service back to Thailand. Luckily I had family to help. 

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Worrab, can you cite a source for this Ministry of Foreign Affairs requirement ?

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30 minutes ago, worrab said:

This is nothing to do with Immigration offices and made up rules. The ruling actually comes from the MFA I think you will find. All documents like these that originate outside Thailand now have to be legalised/notarised in the country of origin. I have just gone through this process with a Death Certificate. This had to be sent to the FCO in Milton Keynes for notarising then couriered to The Royal Thai Embassy in London for legalising before having it sent back here. Took about 2 and a half weeks to get this all done. Worst part is you need family or friends in the UK to help with the last part of paying the Thai Embassy and arranging the courier service back to Thailand. Luckily I had family to help. 

I don't know what happens outside of Thailand, but I do Know that all the IOs have different rules from each other. Anyone who lives in Thailand long enough soon finds that out.

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Go to Savannakhet. As of last month they only required photocopies of degree and teaching certificate, along with the other documents, to get a non-B - at least for a UK passport holder.

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