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BANGKOK 14 December 2018 02:45
warrima

2002 Ford Ranger 4x4 difficulty selecting gear

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Hi All. Looking for some advice. I just bought this Ranger 2nd hand a few weeks ago. I’d been using it a few times without issue though only short runs of 10 mins or so.

Today i got stuck in a pretty bad traffic jam. I was constantly changing between 1st, 2nd and neutral. After about 15 mins of this i noticed it was difficult to get in to 2nd. Next stop i knocked it into neutral and was waiting a few mins for the traffic to move again. Tried to go into 1st and it wouldn’t go. Tried 2nd - same. Tried revving and de-clutching but it wouldn’t budge.

Then i thought to turn the engine off and restart. It wouldn’t start. With horns buzzing i pushed it to the side of the road. After a few mins i tried to start again and up she fired. Slipped into 1st without issue. Of i went but 10mins later this all repeated. Changed down from 2nd and it wouldn’t go to first. Stuck in neutral. Again turned it off and again it wouldnt restart. This time it was maybe 5mins before it would start. But when it did - gears were fine again.

To get it home i pretty much kept it in 2nd and just clutched to stop. I didnt risk changing gear. When home though i was switching through the gears fine again.

My thoughts-

  1. I checked the battery (thinking it was the reason i couldnt restart) but its just 6 months old and holding a full charge. Starts easily from cold also - the day after.

  2. All the fluids are at max (Clutch fluid included)

  3. Heat - Thinking the traffic jam was causing temps to soar - but coolant temp was normal. Anyway when i eventually got home i was able to change gear easily.

  4. Electrical - When i was eventually able to start the engine again on the 2 occasions, the gears were free again. Faulty sensor or something?

  5. Clutch. Coasting home in 2nd i noticed i had to completely floor the clutch pedal to get it to stop. Also it felt like it was getting worse as the trip went on.

Hope someone can help. I will check the transmission oil but i cant believe its a cause as restarting the vehicle would have made no difference.

 

Failing that does anyone know a good mechanic in lower sukhumvit with Ford Ranger experience. 

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5 hours ago, warrima said:

I just bought this Ranger 2nd hand a few weeks ago

There's your problem....lol

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Can't help with a solution but 2 years ago experienced the exact same problem with a 2014 ranger 2wd.

 

It was a leased fleet vehicle. Lease company mechanics repaired it 3 times but each time the problem reappeared within a day. Eventually they replaced it. That vehicle sat in their yard abandoned until the lease ended and they removed all their vehicles.

 

It was obviously not financially viable to repair the vehicle.

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Though it sounds clutch/heat related I would drain the gear oil and refill with the correct grade Mobil oil...😊

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33 minutes ago, warrima said:

Ye but ive had clutches go in other cars and it just gets gradually worse and worse. Restarting the vehicle and the gears were free again. 

 

Definitely sounds like the clutch. Your truck probably has some sort of slave cylinder that takes the slack out of the clutch as everything wears, so you wouldn't really notice it until it actually struggles to disengage. Any mechanic shop would be able to confirm it in about 10 minutes. Just take it in. 

 

11 hours ago, warrima said:

Clutch. Coasting home in 2nd i noticed i had to completely floor the clutch pedal to get it to stop.

 

You should always be completely flooring the clutch anytime you press the pedal. When you dont, the trans & engine dont fully decouple and you create friction which wears the clutch parts faster. 

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Check for leaks at the bell housing. The Ford concentric slave cylinder is most probably leaking.

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25 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Definitely sounds like the clutch. Your truck probably has some sort of slave cylinder that takes the slack out of the clutch as everything wears, so you wouldn't really notice it until it actually struggles to disengage. Any mechanic shop would be able to confirm it in about 10 minutes. Just take it in. 

 

 

You should always be completely flooring the clutch anytime you press the pedal. When you dont, the trans & engine dont fully decouple and you create friction which wears the clutch parts faster. 

Ye honestly i've usually had vehicles in the past with cable clutches.  This is my first experience of a hydraulic clutch. 

 

Yes i would always floor the clutch. But getting it home in 2nd i had to bury it in the carpet at the lights to stop it creeping. 

 

Cheers for the input mate.

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37 minutes ago, stubuzz said:

Where does the clutch bite? At the bottom or near the top?

 

 

First experience with a hydraulic clutch. Its what id say is a long clutch. I feel it start to disengage about 2 inches down. Bite point is about an inch up from the deck. But i felt that was getting closer to the deck as i got home in 2nd. 

33 minutes ago, stubuzz said:

Check for leaks at the bell housing. The Ford concentric slave cylinder is most probably leaking.

Haven't took a close inspection yet but there doesn't appear to be any leaks. The clutch fluid is full. Could be leaking internally through the seals i guess. 

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3 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

How many kilometers on the clock? 

 

 

 

160k. From the service record it has only done about 8k in the last 4 years. Owner moved from Chang Mai to Bangkok and seldom used it here.

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Sounds like a hydraulic problem preventing the clutch disk from completely releasing.

 

When you say the engine wouldn't start did the engine still turnover but not fire?

 

If tension is building in the hydraulics in the direction of the clutch pedal maybe you weren't able to truly depress the clutch pedal all the way to the floor and activate the safety switch that prevents the engine from turning over if the clutch pedal isn't fully depressed. Assuming your truck has that feature.

 

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11 hours ago, wgdanson said:

There's your problem....lol

My 2001 Ford Ranger has 382,xxx km on the clock and it still rattles along as it has done for the last 17 years.

 

I have had a few problems not if I had the money to replace it I would buy another one.

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