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After months of struggling with my cat's pulling her hair out, multiple vetinary consultations in 2 different countries and online to Vets in the US, trials of steroids and antidepressents, I have finally come to the conclusion that it is in fact flea dermatiotis (allergy tio flea bites). A French vet in Phnom Penh showed me how to identify "flea dirt" and sure enough, despiter FrontLine, the cat still has fleas.

I have vacuumed, put carpets and cushions out in direct sunlight, sprayed them with repellents, treated the cat several times with FrontLibne and the vets gfave ivemectin. Have also treated the dog just in case, not that he ever goes anywhere near him or his house...

Still fleas. Not a whole lot, but as the cat is very allergic even the odd bite now and then is enough for her to pull out clumps of hair. She looks dreadful, with bald patches all over.

Any advice?????

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After months of struggling with my cat's pulling her hair out, multiple vetinary consultations in 2 different countries and online to Vets in the US, trials of steroids and antidepressents, I have finally come to the conclusion that it is in fact flea dermatiotis (allergy tio flea bites). A French vet in Phnom Penh showed me how to identify "flea dirt" and sure enough, despiter FrontLine, the cat still has fleas.

I have vacuumed, put carpets and cushions out in direct sunlight, sprayed them with repellents, treated the cat several times with FrontLibne and the vets gfave ivemectin. Have also treated the dog just in case, not that he ever goes anywhere near him or his house...

Still fleas. Not a whole lot, but as the cat is very allergic even the odd bite now and then is enough for her to pull out clumps of hair. She looks dreadful, with bald patches all over.

Any advice?????

Why have you listed this topic flea times ? :o

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Why have you listed this topic flea times ? :o

Because I am getting awFLEA desperate!!!!!!

Seriously, no suggestions?

Can Frontline etc be given more frequently than once a month? Is there something else I can add?

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try to sprinkle flea powder on the beddings and surroundings where your cat sleeps. not sure if you can put on you cat as he might lick it off, i only used fleapowder on tiny kittens once which don't clean themselves yet. ivermec too often is not so healthy. if your cat meets other cats outside he will always be a goal for flea... but the fleapowder sprinkling should work :o

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Do wild cats have flea problems? No. What do wild cats eat? Raw meat. What does your cat eat? Cooked or canned meat. Read up on what happened to Pottenger's cats ...

http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/PottengerResearch.htm

http://flip195.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/th...ger-experiment/

(Extract) The healthiest cats were the ones who received raw meat and raw milk. This was the only group to produce generation after generation of healthy kittens with broad faces, adequate nasal cavities, broad dental arches, strong and correctly shaped teeth and bones, excellent tissue tone, good-quality fur with a minimum of shedding and an absence of gum disease. These cats were resistant to infections, fleas and internal parasites. They showed no sign of allergies and were gregarious, friendly and predictable in their behavior patterns. Miscarriages were rare and litters averaged five kittens, the mothers nursed without difficulty.

So, Sheryl my dear, please feed your cat its natural diet of raw meat (and raw fish) and pure water -- and while you're about it, follow the paradigm for yourself too. I refer you to my advice on the human-eczema thread. I'm trying to help but, you can lead a horse to water ...

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I feed my cat raw. Raw chicken pieces - wings, fat, bones, hearts and liver. He also gets supplements you can buy online. He has never had fleas (he stays inside, which helps) and is in excellent health. If I offer him tinned food he snubs it.

/H'd still eat a plate of cheese if you offered it, though.

As for the fleas - did you try Revolution? I find both that and frontline get rid of fleas. Maybe if you shaved poor puss temporarily?

good luck.

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try to sprinkle flea powder on the beddings and surroundings where your cat sleeps. not sure if you can put on you cat as he might lick it off, i only used fleapowder on tiny kittens once which don't clean themselves yet. ivermec too often is not so healthy. if your cat meets other cats outside he will always be a goal for flea... but the fleapowder sprinkling should work :D

All the sparys and powders i have been able to find contain pyrethrins, which while safe in dogs, is lethal to cats. Thereis apparently a compung called pymethrum which is safe for cats but haven't been able to find it here??

As for you raw food folks..1)not an option because she won't take it. She will eat only dried food, mackeral flavor. I'd gladly feed her fresh mackeral, but she refuses it raw and will only occasionally accept it even cooked. She's set in her ways (8 years old0..(oh, OK, she's spoiled, too). and 2) wild cats do, indeed, get fleas.

I suspect sobriquet's luck is because his cat stays indoors. Mine is an indoor/outdoor cat and I thik it is from outside that she keeps getting re-infected.

I've tried frontline, repeatedly. She still has fleas, probablyfrom re-infection.. :o

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Use "Sevin Dust" if you can find it. :o

meandwi

Thanks. Do you know what the active ingrediant is? and where it is sold?

Is it a powder, spray or what?

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Use "Sevin Dust" if you can find it. :o

meandwi

Thanks. Do you know what the active ingrediant is? and where it is sold?

Is it a powder, spray or what?

Boron, is the active ingrediant.

http://www.pestproducts.com/borate.htm

Contact a vet in your area to find it.

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try to sprinkle flea powder on the beddings and surroundings where your cat sleeps. not sure if you can put on you cat as he might lick it off, i only used fleapowder on tiny kittens once which don't clean themselves yet. ivermec too often is not so healthy. if your cat meets other cats outside he will always be a goal for flea... but the fleapowder sprinkling should work :D
All the sparys and powders i have been able to find contain pyrethrins, which while safe in dogs, is lethal to cats. Thereis apparently a compung called pymethrum which is safe for cats but haven't been able to find it here??As for you raw food folks..1)not an option because she won't take it. She will eat only dried food, mackeral flavor. I'd gladly feed her fresh mackeral, but she refuses it raw and will only occasionally accept it even cooked. She's set in her ways (8 years old0..(oh, OK, she's spoiled, too). and 2) wild cats do, indeed, get fleas.I suspect sobriquet's luck is because his cat stays indoors. Mine is an indoor/outdoor cat and I thik it is from outside that she keeps getting re-infected.I've tried frontline, repeatedly. She still has fleas, probablyfrom re-infection.. :o

Ever wondered why pet cats still go after birds and mice?   It is because the canned garbage you feed them from supermarkets is nutritionally-inadequate.

Unfortunately you have conditioned your cat into eating worthless processed and cooked foods in exactly the same way as you have conditioned your children to eat non-raw -- thereby perpetuating the cycle of chronic ill-health in both pets and humans.   Vets and doctors then follow the victims like vultures, purveying their toxic vaccines and drugs, which all fail to address the basic problem of lack of whole, raw micronutrients and enzymes in the diet.

If you just leave puss various cuts of raw meat and organs without alternatives she will soon get the message and eat them up. Wild animals have a high degree of resistance to parasites.   They may be present at a low level, trying to pick off the weak, but fleas are not a significant problem in healthy, raw-food-eating individuals, as 'sobriquet' confirms above.

If you fail to make the dietary paradigm-shift required, your cat's skin problems will only become worse, and the toxic chemicals in the proprietary 'flea treatments' will kill her off all the quicker.

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After months of struggling with my cat's pulling her hair out, multiple vetinary consultations in 2 different countries and online to Vets in the US, trials of steroids and antidepressents, I have finally come to the conclusion that it is in fact flea dermatiotis (allergy tio flea bites). A French vet in Phnom Penh showed me how to identify "flea dirt" and sure enough, despiter FrontLine, the cat still has fleas.

I have vacuumed, put carpets and cushions out in direct sunlight, sprayed them with repellents, treated the cat several times with FrontLibne and the vets gfave ivemectin. Have also treated the dog just in case, not that he ever goes anywhere near him or his house...

Still fleas. Not a whole lot, but as the cat is very allergic even the odd bite now and then is enough for her to pull out clumps of hair. She looks dreadful, with bald patches all over.

Any advice?????

Sheryl, had the same problem with my cat back in NZ, she was bald from the front legs back, treated her and the two dogs, bedding etc for fleas several times, tried hormone tablets from the vet in case of an inbalance, no luck, finally I got so sick of looking at a bald cat I got a product from the pet shop that stops them biting and chewing things and sprayed it on her with great success (checked with the vet first, she said it wouldnt hurt the cat) the fleas had pretty much gone but what was left was a bad habit! Haven't had any trouble since, her coat is great and I only treat her as often as the products state, I use Advantage for them all. As for food, all our animals have been fed on Iams/eukanuba and they have done really well, raw meat does not have all the amino acids, vitamins etc... that they need but top quality dried food does, (this is advice from my vet who I've used for many years) also helps with odors, teeth etc... just like kids, they won't starve, if that's all she has to eat she will eat it! good luck

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Sheryl, had the same problem with my cat back in NZ, she was bald from the front legs back, treated her and the two dogs, bedding etc for fleas several times, tried hormone tablets from the vet in case of an inbalance, no luck, finally I got so sick of looking at a bald cat I got a product from the pet shop that stops them biting and chewing things and sprayed it on her with great success (checked with the vet first, she said it wouldnt hurt the cat) the fleas had pretty much gone but what was left was a bad habit! Haven't had any trouble since, her coat is great and I only treat her as often as the products state, I use Advantage for them all. As for food, all our animals have been fed on Iams/eukanuba and they have done really well, raw meat does not have all the amino acids, vitamins etc... that they need but top quality dried food does, (this is advice from my vet who I've used for many years) also helps with odors, teeth etc... just like kids, they won't starve, if that's all she has to eat she will eat it! good luck

Thanks Babz, what is the spray called and who makes it (in case I have to order it online)?

I think our situations are the same as I have pretty much concluded that with my cat it is both flea dermatitits and psychogenic, i.e. she does have a flea allergy which is what set the whole thing off but has now developped the hair pulling as a response to other stressors as well.

I am now alternating frontline and Advantage on her (different compounds) in the hopes of getting rid of the fleas since using just one doesn;t seem to do it, I still find "flea dirt" in her hair when I check. Have done mega-cleaning of every place she sleeps in the house and bought some powders with which I will shortly treat the carpets. Alo swept up and burned loose leaves etc all around the house where she sometimes hangs out on the theory that she was re-acquriing the fleas from outside......

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Sheryl, had the same problem with my cat back in NZ, she was bald from the front legs back, treated her and the two dogs, bedding etc for fleas several times, tried hormone tablets from the vet in case of an inbalance, no luck, finally I got so sick of looking at a bald cat I got a product from the pet shop that stops them biting and chewing things and sprayed it on her with great success (checked with the vet first, she said it wouldnt hurt the cat) the fleas had pretty much gone but what was left was a bad habit! Haven't had any trouble since, her coat is great and I only treat her as often as the products state, I use Advantage for them all. As for food, all our animals have been fed on Iams/eukanuba and they have done really well, raw meat does not have all the amino acids, vitamins etc... that they need but top quality dried food does, (this is advice from my vet who I've used for many years) also helps with odors, teeth etc... just like kids, they won't starve, if that's all she has to eat she will eat it! good luck

Thanks Babz, what is the spray called and who makes it (in case I have to order it online)?

I think our situations are the same as I have pretty much concluded that with my cat it is both flea dermatitits and psychogenic, i.e. she does have a flea allergy which is what set the whole thing off but has now developped the hair pulling as a response to other stressors as well.

I am now alternating frontline and Advantage on her (different compounds) in the hopes of getting rid of the fleas since using just one doesn;t seem to do it, I still find "flea dirt" in her hair when I check. Have done mega-cleaning of every place she sleeps in the house and bought some powders with which I will shortly treat the carpets. Alo swept up and burned loose leaves etc all around the house where she sometimes hangs out on the theory that she was re-acquriing the fleas from outside......

Sheryl, sorry I can't remember it was a couple of years ago now, but I'll get someone at home to have a look for it, failing that I'm going back to NZ at the end of next week for a visit and will have a look myself and let you know. Yes carpets can be a problem, we have a gadget that sprays pyrethrium into the living areas every couple of mins at home, fantastic at keeping flies and bugs out of the house and also seems to help with fleas as well.

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