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The Price Of Wine

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Why is wine that expensive in Thailand, is it a combination of import taxes and demand ? At home (not in France), supermarkets offer a huge selection of perfect drinkable wines in the 300 Baht range.

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There is really not as much demand as there could be. Tax and duty add around 200% to the price of a bottle of wine. Totally ridiculous! The government gouges wine drinkers because they can under the guise of a "sin Tax". It is criminal but TIT.

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The Thai distilling and brewing companies, Boon Rawd (Singha, Leo) and Thai Beverage (Saeng Som, Chang, Archa) control the lion's share of the Thai alcoholic drinks market. They have a massive and effective lobbying voice. And to a lesser extent Thai Asia Pacific Brewery (Heineken, Cheers).

Don't expect to see any reduction in tax on wine soon. Similarly don't expect to see the ASEAN free-trade agreement put into effect for beer (particularly Beer Lao) in the near future. This was stymied by the big Thai beer companies. You can buy Beer Lao but it is subject to import duty.

Any foreign challenge to this cartel is soon put to bed.

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There are sometimes offers of 5 Liter bottles of italien wines at 700-900 Baht.

Usually they are without major problems. Not top quality but better drinkable than the 500 Baht supermarket 0.7 bottles. Never had one of the "better mix with Coke" quality.

"Best Supermarket" in Pattaya and sometimes "Makro" has such offers.

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Maybe it is becasue they want us to start drinking, and enjoying the good local produced stuff.

:o

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The Thai distilling and brewing companies, Boon Rawd (Singha, Leo) and Thai Beverage (Saeng Som, Chang, Archa) control the lion's share of the Thai alcoholic drinks market. They have a massive and effective lobbying voice. And to a lesser extent Thai Asia Pacific Brewery (Heineken, Cheers).

Don't expect to see any reduction in tax on wine soon. Similarly don't expect to see the ASEAN free-trade agreement put into effect for beer (particularly Beer Lao) in the near future. This was stymied by the big Thai beer companies. You can buy Beer Lao but it is subject to import duty.

Any foreign challenge to this cartel is soon put to bed.

Sounds like "sour grapes" to me. :D:o

Heard recently that Grapes have started being imported from outside Thailand and fermented here locally to get round some of the hefty import duty on wines.

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Maybe it is becasue they want us to start drinking, and enjoying the good local produced stuff.

:o

I am under the impression that Thai wines are taxed at the same absurd rates as imported wines. The government isn't hip to the health promoting qualities of wine and/or doesn't give a fig about anything but money for the beer/whiskey mafias.

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One thing I was wondering was about a delectable drink that I find hard to come by in Thailand unless it is in a bar for 120 baht a glass:

Kahluah Mudslide. I really don't enjoy alcohol, its just not my thing, but if I do drink, it has to be something tasty like Kahluah.

Does anybody know of places to actually purchase this? or is it only available as an import?

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Maybe it is becasue they want us to start drinking, and enjoying the good local produced stuff.

:o

I am under the impression that Thai wines are taxed at the same absurd rates as imported wines. The government isn't hip to the health promoting qualities of wine and/or doesn't give a fig about anything but money for the beer/whiskey mafias.

try tesco. they have a red and white that is made in bangkok(not fruit wine) only 250 baht.

red is especially nice.

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Fruit "wine"? You are kidding, right? How about some grape soda?

The fact that such bevvies are cheap doesn't disprove my point, as the cost to produce that would be almost nothing.

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If i remember correctly, a few years ago there's a campaign by the then government that encouraged Thai people to consume Thai products instead of buying imported products. To do so, they raised tax for imported "luxurious goods" and wine was one of them.

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Why is wine that expensive in Thailand, is it a combination of import taxes and demand ? At home (not in France), supermarkets offer a huge selection of perfect drinkable wines in the 300 Baht range.

And seems to have become much more expensive recently as well. You used to be able to get some fairly decent offers in Villa and the like (buy one, get one, buy two get one) which meant the price per bottle was reasonable. My last trip there did not see even one offer, and individual bottles mostly up above 500 baht per. Even the local Lotus has little below 450 per bottle.

And Thai "wine" -not the fruit stuff, just the stuff they sell as "wine" - undrinkable.

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Why is wine that expensive in Thailand, is it a combination of import taxes and demand ? At home (not in France), supermarkets offer a huge selection of perfect drinkable wines in the 300 Baht range.

And seems to have become much more expensive recently as well. You used to be able to get some fairly decent offers in Villa and the like (buy one, get one, buy two get one) which meant the price per bottle was reasonable. My last trip there did not see even one offer, and individual bottles mostly up above 500 baht per. Even the local Lotus has little below 450 per bottle.

And Thai "wine" -not the fruit stuff, just the stuff they sell as "wine" - undrinkable.

i just had a glass of wine with the head of the largest wine importer in thailand, he told me the import duty for wines was 430%

i'll stick to chang.

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hello,

i saw a reportage showing wine produced in thailand with grappes raised in thailand, they show a wine from chonburi.

i search on internet about thai wines and i found this website wich represents the six biggest or only wine makers here in LOS, their website is : http://thaiwine.org/

my question is where to buy such products at local prices in koh samui or suratthani?

thanks.

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Kahluah.

Does anybody know of places to actually purchase this?

Yeah, everywhere, any shop selling spirits--Foodland, for example. It's overpriced, though. Try some cheaper coffee liqueurs, some of which also have higher alcohol content.

Back to the topic: high wine prices here are just criminal!

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