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Dual Nationality

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Dear Forum,

I hope you all enjoyed Christmas. I have a question which seems to cause a lot of confusion when I speak to various people. So, if anyone can answer this CLEARLY, it will be greatly appreciated:

Can Thai Nationals have dual nationality i.e. a Thai and British passport?

Best wishes

Beswick.

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Yes they can, and many do.

When the memsahib and I travel to Thailand, she shows her British passport at UK checkin, because that's the name on the ticket. In Bangkok she produces her Thai passport to Immigration (which carries her maiden name). On leaving Bangkok she again shows her Brit passport at checkin, and the Thai passport to Immigration. On arrival in London she shows Brit passport (or we dodge the queue and go through the IRIS barrier).

For those who have changed their Thai passport to the married name, the only real difference would be that it wouldn't matter which passport you show to check in in London. Once a person obtains British citizenship and a British passport, they no longer qualify for an ILR stamp when they have to get a new Thai passport, so they would have to show the Brit passport at Bangkok checkin to prove their right to enter the UK.

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Yes they can, and many do.

When the memsahib and I travel to Thailand, she shows her British passport at UK checkin, because that's the name on the ticket. In Bangkok she produces her Thai passport to Immigration (which carries her maiden name). On leaving Bangkok she again shows her Brit passport at checkin, and the Thai passport to Immigration. On arrival in London she shows Brit passport (or we dodge the queue and go through the IRIS barrier).

For those who have changed their Thai passport to the married name, the only real difference would be that it wouldn't matter which passport you show to check in in London. Once a person obtains British citizenship and a British passport, they no longer qualify for an ILR stamp when they have to get a new Thai passport, so they would have to show the Brit passport at Bangkok checkin to prove their right to enter the UK.

Off topic - so you have my apologies, but what is the IRIS barrier? We're going to Heathrow soon and could do with any ideas for dodgin that queue. :o

Back on topic, I echo the previous answers, i.e. there are no problems with Thai's holding dual nationality. I think though that most people with dual nationality enter and leave UK on British passport, enter and leave Thailand on the Thai passport.

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Yes they can, and many do.

When the memsahib and I travel to Thailand, she shows her British passport at UK checkin, because that's the name on the ticket. In Bangkok she produces her Thai passport to Immigration (which carries her maiden name). On leaving Bangkok she again shows her Brit passport at checkin, and the Thai passport to Immigration. On arrival in London she shows Brit passport (or we dodge the queue and go through the IRIS barrier).

For those who have changed their Thai passport to the married name, the only real difference would be that it wouldn't matter which passport you show to check in in London. Once a person obtains British citizenship and a British passport, they no longer qualify for an ILR stamp when they have to get a new Thai passport, so they would have to show the Brit passport at Bangkok checkin to prove their right to enter the UK.

Hi All,

Thanks for your replies'. I understand you points about using different passports; however I am conscious of something. For example, if my wife used her British passport to leave the UK (i.e. holiday to Thailand for 2 weeks), and it was stamped as departure from London, what about when we arrive in BKK and produce the Thai passport with no departure sticker etc from the UK? And then do the same but showing the British passport to depart from BKK, end up at London, and they say: 'Where is your departure stamp?,' if they were ever to check. Surely this would put you in a mess.

Why can't we just use the British passports to London and Bangkok? And then if we choose to buy property / stay in Thailand ( this only applies to wife as I have a work permit etc), then just show the Thai passport for evidence she is still a Thai National. I am confused on all this and sorry to be thick.

Many thanks.

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and happy new year u all !

well...thought to

ask first does anyone

know, can i get to our

newcomer dual citizenship,

i am finn , and wife thai.

if u know, appreciate info a lot.

thanks and cheers.

:o

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If she uses her British passport to enter Thailand she would only be given 30 days to stay without obtaining a visa.

Why would anyone want to go to the trouble and expense to get a visa when one isn't needed?

As stated above.

British passport = In and out of Britian (and other places where a British passport would be an advantage).

Thai passport = In and out of Thailand (and perhaps other ASEAN countries).

If an airlines questions the lack of a visa, show them both passports.

Immigration will only need to see one passport.

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Hi All,

Thanks for your replies'. I understand you points about using different passports; however I am conscious of something. For example, if my wife used her British passport to leave the UK (i.e. holiday to Thailand for 2 weeks), and it was stamped as departure from London, what about when we arrive in BKK and produce the Thai passport with no departure sticker etc from the UK? And then do the same but showing the British passport to depart from BKK, end up at London, and they say: 'Where is your departure stamp?,' if they were ever to check. Surely this would put you in a mess.

Why can't we just use the British passports to London and Bangkok? And then if we choose to buy property / stay in Thailand ( this only applies to wife as I have a work permit etc), then just show the Thai passport for evidence she is still a Thai National. I am confused on all this and sorry to be thick.

Many thanks.

They don't look for entry and departure stamps when your arrive at the airport. So that is not a problem.

Many people are using both passports on daily basis.

As previous posts have stated she leaves the UK on her Uk passport and if traveling on a one way ticket she would need to show her Thai passport to the airline check-in counter in order to get on the flight.

She then can put away her UK passport. She then enters Thailand on her Thai passport and then stays as long as she wants. When leaving she would need to show her UK passport for check-in to show she can enter the UK. She uses her Thai passport at immigration and then puts away her Thai passport and uses her UK passport to enter the UK.

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and happy new year u all !

well...thought to

ask first does anyone

know, can i get to our

newcomer dual citizenship,

i am finn , and wife thai.

if u know, appreciate info a lot.

thanks and cheers.

:o

As far as Thailand is concerned yes your child can have dual citizenship/nationality.

And according to info on the Finland embassy website Finland also allows dual nationality.

See this webpage from the website: http://www.finland.or.th/public/default.as...p;culture=en-US

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Thanks for your replies'. I understand you points about using different passports; however I am conscious of something. For example, if my wife used her British passport to leave the UK (i.e. holiday to Thailand for 2 weeks), and it was stamped as departure from London,

They don't stamp a British passport on departure from the UK.

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My wife and daughter have used their British passports to enter and leave the UK and their Thai passports to enter and leave Thailand many times without a problem.

Britsh passports are not stamped when entering the UK and as said above, except in exceptional circumstances such as deportation, passports are not stamped when leaving the UK, whatever the holder's nationality.

There may be a problem if leaving Thailand and the entry stamp is missing, so one should use the same passport each time. As already said, if a dual national uses their British passport to enter Thailand then they should use that to leave, and they would be subject to the same entry rules as any other Brit, even though they are also Thai.

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There may be a problem if leaving Thailand and the entry stamp is missing, so one should use the same passport each time. As already said, if a dual national uses their British passport to enter Thailand then they should use that to leave, and they would be subject to the same entry rules as any other Brit, even though they are also Thai.

Happy New Year!

This is exactly what I'm worried about. I know the Thais can be extremely difficult sometimes. I need to get this 100 per cent correct to save any hassle in future.

For example, the family and I all have british passports, at the end of next year we all leave due to myself working in Thailand. We stay in Thailand for 5 years until I decide to come back to the UK (not that I plan to, but just to have a bit of insurance to fall back on incase anything goes wrong and having British passports will save us the trouble, but more importantly the stress and expense of visas' again), and upon return to the UK we check in at Thai immigration for departure. We have to produce the Brit passports so the family will be granted access to the UK, they will then say that you've overstayed and have to pay a fortune and even possibly be baned from Thailand. I know that they are keen on overstays etc, etc.

Am I looking at this is the 'right way' or am I looking into things too much?

Best wishes

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When leaving Thailand a dual Thai/British citizen will need to show their British passport to the airline when checking in so that the airline knows that they can enter the UK. There is no need to show their British passport to Thai immigration/passport control at all. Their Thai passport is all these guys will need, or want, to see.

UK to Thailand

On checking in with the airline to leave UK show both passports to show you are legally in the UK and can enter Thailand without restriction.

There is no passport control on leaving the UK at present. If at some time in the future there is then show British passport.

On arrival in Thailand show Thai immigration, and get the entry stamp in, Thai passport.

Thailand to UK

On checking in with the airline to leave Thailand show both passports to show you are legally in Thailand and can enter the UK without restriction.

At Thai passport control show, and get exit stamp in, Thai passport.

On arrival in the UK show UK immigration the British passport.

Countless dual nationals do this all the time; without any hassle at all. The only hassle or risk of overstay fines would be if they used their British passport to enter or leave Thailand, so always use the Thai one.

Stop worrying!

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Can Thai Nationals have dual nationality i.e. a Thai and British passport?

Just to reiterate and confirm what others have said, yes you can have dual nationality of Brit/Thai, but don't go looking for specific criteria stating it categorically.

Do a search under 'Dual Nationality' and incorporating samran as a contributor, he is the most knowledgeable, with due respect to other contributors, in my opinion on this forum including Thai law and there has been considerable dialogue regarding this issue and the consensus overwhelmingly is it OK.

My wife travels without a problem anyway, using both passports, much to my chagrin :o

Moss

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