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Running A Bar In Sihanoukville,cambodia

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Anyone run a bar in Sihanoukville,or have experiences doing business there?

Thanks,

Mel

I guess it is the same as anywhere in the world realy , have enough capital to stay alive for several months without expecting any profit , more to establish who you are , what you give , how you treat your customers , the ambience of the premises , being a little different in your approach , supplying little 'Extras ' on occassion , have 'Special ' days for certain items , etc , etc . Most important in my estimation would be LOCATION for your type of buisiness , a thorough survey of the local area to ensure you have the 'Traffic ' available for you to build the buisiness , sit in like places to learn how the locals succeed (Or fail) .

A friend of mine was moved a few thousand metres due to road work ,which was never done , on the same road and buisiness dropped off considerably .He is currently in hospital in the UK or I feel sure he would enjoy a chat or two with you , he is aware of pitfalls and who to keep in with , he learned the hard way .

Think hard , think long , haste makes waste , vet out potential employees .

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Lots of closed bars around here, probably quite cheap. Bring friends along so you have some customers.

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Lots of closed bars around here, probably quite cheap. Bring friends along so you have some customers.

Too many friends and family hanging around any buisiness is not good for buisiness in the long run , unless they are there for the right reasons , to spend money at your buisiness . Have ran buisiness for myself and others over many years , all were successfull , what is not often considered is the amount of time 'Stolen' for "Chit-Chat " on things that are not relevant to your operation . This can tie up both you and your staff , not allowing them time to perform thier duties in a timely manner , some good customers will go elsewhere , some will spend less time and money with your establishment and you get left with the low profit time wasters (Friends) .

In a walk in style of opperation , one needs to analise the daily events , taking notes as you go along , listen to comments from customers , complaints can be most important as to how you change to suit or just sit back and relax "Ha-ben-aha ". You need to what I term as 'Styerate the clients' , good profit through to hangers on who detract from profitability , gently but nicely reduce the low end types . A buisiness can only be as successfull as the energy and thought you put into it , and of course , a certain amount of luck . :o:D

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Oh , just one more thing , why did those bars close in the first place , often poor management , untrained staff , laxidaisical attitude etc , some can be regurgitated successfully , others not , be cautious and self critical . :o

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There are two bars that are doing decent business here in the Golden Lion Plaza (a small strip of bars)

THOSE two guys do better than the bars further back because they are right at the road and entrance.There is a bar for sale right next door(one back) to the busiest bars (The Shipwreck and Paddy's)It is already fitted out,and was previously The Sandgroper Bar.

I'm hesitant to do ANY type of business in the current economic environment,but there does seem to be alot of growth in this town.Also,I know that the owners of both those bars do get together and organize promotions,etc. Something I would participate in as well,and I've met both owners...both are good guys.

Thanks for the advice and insights

mel

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Hello Mel , if you took on this available bar , is there room or trade for a barang oriented restaraunt that would be able and willing to supply the type of food they would like to enjoy instead of that which is currently dished up as this , that or the other ? I ask this because I have a wife who has been taught to cook 'What I want "as apposed to "what she thinks I want . Please look around , can you sit down to Cornish pasties , a decent piza or hamburger , cock-a leaky soup , chili-con-carnie , KFC style chicken and chips , and other distant memories ? These could be dished up as 'bar-food ' that mother wished she could cook , please put some thought into this as an adendum to your prospective plans .

Just asking . :o

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Hi C,

I do know that TWO of the bars currently for sale have small kitchens attached.

May be a good idea for a bar area like this that is open 24 hrs.

Hope all is well with you,and your new year is off to a good start.

mel

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Be wary of Snookyville.

I know of at least one bar owner whose bar was pulled down due to a heavyweight poo-yai type wanting to build a bank or some

such building...

Would be the last place in Asia I'd consider for running bars.

I don't know how busy it gets their but the customers don't tend to be the big drinkers and spenders compared to Thailand.

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There are two bars that are doing decent business here in the Golden Lion Plaza (a small strip of bars)

THOSE two guys do better than the bars further back because they are right at the road and entrance.There is a bar for sale right next door(one back) to the busiest bars (The Shipwreck and Paddy's)It is already fitted out,and was previously The Sandgroper Bar.

I'm hesitant to do ANY type of business in the current economic environment,but there does seem to be alot of growth in this town.Also,I know that the owners of both those bars do get together and organize promotions,etc. Something I would participate in as well,and I've met both owners...both are good guys.

Thanks for the advice and insights

mel

I have been living here for almost 2 years & I would not have a bar in the Golden Lion Plaza if you gave me free rent for the first two years. There are only a hand full of successful business in Sihanoukville being run by foreigners, So be warned. To check it out come & have a look in the wet season.

Cheers Tony

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Sihanoukville seems over-barred already, maybe i'm wrong... but holiday places like that seem like you really have to have something special about your place to get enough customers, i.e. i wouldn't want to compete. Your primary goal would be to get yourself in the Lonely Planet book, as that's what 90% of the tourists have.

I dunno, I would try to get in at the places with the nice beaches, be it on an island or somewhere, cuz that's where it's going to end up growing the most. Kep would have to be a long-term business plan, but you'd be the first real barang bar there and if it ever develops you'd be set for life.

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Anyone run a bar in Sihanoukville,or have experiences doing business there?

Thanks,

Mel

Here's an idea.......Let me take about 4 months pay away from you and then kick you in the nuts. in the long run it will be less painful and cost less.

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If you havn't already done it it is worth reading the "bits from the beach" pages in the Bayon Pearnik http://www.bayonpearnik.com/

Although a light hearted publication it gives you an insight on who has started a business & more importantly who & what has shut their doors & sometimes why

Good luck with the business, I met the guy who had the Sandgroper Bar when he first started up & had a few good night there

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