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Govt Called To Cancel Rules Listing Herbs As Hazardous

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Govt called to cancel rules listing herbs as hazardous

BANGKOK: -- A group of organic farmers and alternative agricultural activists have called on the government to cancel regulations listing 13 herbal plants as hazardous substances, saying they would destroy local initiative in using the plants as alternative pesticides in place of chemicals.

The group also asked the government to withdraw this legislation - an Industry Ministerial regulation and a Draft of Agricultural Ministerial regulation - within 30 days.

If there was no response from the government they would gather at Government House to submit their petition and pressure Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, said the group's leader, Thai Health Foundation's director, Veerapong Kriangsinyot.

The Industry Ministry - aiming to control pesticide production and commercialisation - announced its new regulation on February 3, listing the 13 plants as "hazardous substances type 1" under the 1992 Hazardous Substances Act.

The plants are: neem, citronella grass, tumeric, ginger, Chinese ginger, African marigold, Siam weed or bitter bush, tea seed cake, chilli, Chinese celery, ringworn bush, glory lily and stemona.

They are widely used among farmers as alternatives for expensive and toxic farm chemicals, pesticides and herbicides.

Meanwhile, the Department of Agriculture, a member of the hazardous substances committee, has proposed the new draft requiring growers, manufacturers, importers and exporters of pesticides made from the 13 herbal plants to conform to the Department of Agriculture and follow safety and quality control regulations issued by the committee. Law violators will face six months in jail and a fine of 50,000 baht.

A 44 year-old organic farmer from Suphan Buri province, Sumalee Tanyachareon said the regulation has made her life more difficult. She must inform the agricultural office that she cultivates some of the 13 herbal plants and produces them as a pesticide.

"The regulation would be an obstacle and a burden for farmers instead of promoting organic farming," she said.

Sumalee previously used chemical pesticides to kill insects in her rice farms. Now she uses herbal pesticide, after learning it is cheaper and safer than chemical pesticide.

She said regardless of whether the regulation is withdrawn or not, she will continue to use home-made herbal pesticide as it cuts costs on her rice farms.

Department of Agriculture's director general, Somchai Chanarong insisted the new regulation and the draft would not affect the use of herbal plants in the country. Growers or manufacturers were required only to inform agricultural agencies when they produced herbal pesticide for commercialisation.

" We want to protect the consumer from someone who would cheat them and sell faked products," he said.

Department of Industrial Works' director general, Rachada Singkalwanich said the announcement of the industry ministerial regulation followed a proposal from the Department of Agriculture.

" The Department of Agriculture proposed this regulation because it was receiving a lot of complaints from organic farmers and the department had no regulations to control the misuse of herbal pesticides. "

The Department of Agriculture would draw up a guideline for relevant agencies on the nature of the herbal plants. If the Department of Agriculture had such a regulation, the Department of Industrial Works would withdraw the 13 herbal plants from the hazardous substances list.

Meanwhile, the Public Health Deputy Minister, Manit Nopamorbodhi said he would discuss with the Industry Minister how to help people understand more about the role of the 13 herbal plants in daily lives.

In the near future, he said he would ask the Department for Development of Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine to produce a logo as a safety warning display for herbal products sold in the market.

The Department for Development of Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine's director general, Dr Nara Nakwattananukul said there was misunderstanding about the implementation of the industry ministerial regulation to list the 13 herbal plant as hazardous substances.

Under the regulation, farmers are allowed to use herbal plants as medicine. They do not have to register with the Department of Agriculture if they have small herbal plantations.

The department will organise a meeting which invite related agencies to discuss over this issue on this Friday.

-- The Nation 2009-02-12

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It has been suggested that the CP Group is the biggest supplier of agricultural pesticides in Thailand. Unrelated of course in that they were a major financial supporter of the Democrats and the the PMs father also sits on their board.

Years back up in Fang, farmers without the money to buy pesticides and fertilizer had to offer up their land titles (far exceeding the debt) as guarantees to the local Chinese supply shops. Needless to say a lot of land was "acquired" that way.

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May we know their names? May we ask, who are the people that are trying to kill not only organic farming and herbal medicine in Thailand, but Thai food itself?

We simply cannot let them get away with murder by hiding themselves behind the faceless entity of the Committee on Hazardous Substances, which has issued an outrageous regulation that labels our common herbs as "toxic substances". So the neem, fragrant lemongrass, ginger, galangal, turmeric, Chinese celery and chilli - all have suddenly become toxic substances.

Are they crazy?

Most probably not, because this announcement has the fingerprints of agro-chemical multinational corporations all over it.

Four decades after the Green Revolution which introduced heavy use of farm chemicals to increase productivity, it has become recognised wordwide how dangerous these chemicals are to our earth.

Apart from killing the soil and contaminating the waterways as well as underground water, the toxic residues permanently stay in the natural environment, causing great damage throughout the entire food chain.

While over-exposure to toxic chemical pesticides has killed countless farmers, the dangerous residues are also believed to be one of the most important environmental causes for the dramatic rise in cancer worldwide.

Thailand is among the heaviest users of toxic farm chemicals in Southeast Asia. And probably the most reckless......

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Hopefully the government will revisit this issue pretty quickly.

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I doubt it.....ever heard of codex alimentarus....

"So what does all this have to do with Organic Farming and Natural Health? Part of the New World Order agenda is to remove the requirement for food labelling & to restrict and ultimately prohibit the sale of all natural health products. According to John Hammell, a legislative advocate and the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF), here is what we have to look forward to:

“If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly and its bosses, the major pharmaceutical firms.”

However, this is just the tip of the iceberg; behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission are the United Nations and the World Health Organization, working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. It is now a criminal offence in parts of Europe to sell herbs as foods. An agreement called EEC6565 equates selling herbs as foods to selling other illegal drugs. Action is being taken to accelerate bringing other European countries into ‘harmonisation’."

If the worst comes true it will become illegal to sell vitamins without a prescription (at least the vitamins that actually do any good i.e. the ones with some actual good dosage) May be consipracy theory over reaction....but has me a little concerned....I think it is supposed to come into force december this year :o

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The government wont be very helpful too much money is involved.

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May we know their names? May we ask, who are the people that are trying to kill not only organic farming and herbal medicine in Thailand, but Thai food itself?

We simply cannot let them get away with murder by hiding themselves behind the faceless entity of the Committee on Hazardous Substances, which has issued an outrageous regulation that labels our common herbs as "toxic substances". So the neem, fragrant lemongrass, ginger, galangal, turmeric, Chinese celery and chilli - all have suddenly become toxic substances.

Are they crazy?

Most probably not, because this announcement has the fingerprints of agro-chemical multinational corporations all over it.

Four decades after the Green Revolution which introduced heavy use of farm chemicals to increase productivity, it has become recognised wordwide how dangerous these chemicals are to our earth.

Apart from killing the soil and contaminating the waterways as well as underground water, the toxic residues permanently stay in the natural environment, causing great damage throughout the entire food chain.

While over-exposure to toxic chemical pesticides has killed countless farmers, the dangerous residues are also believed to be one of the most important environmental causes for the dramatic rise in cancer worldwide.

Thailand is among the heaviest users of toxic farm chemicals in Southeast Asia. And probably the most reckless......

For once we agree on something.

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May we know their names? May we ask, who are the people that are trying to kill not only organic farming and herbal medicine in Thailand, but Thai food itself?

We simply cannot let them get away with murder by hiding themselves behind the faceless entity of the Committee on Hazardous Substances, which has issued an outrageous regulation that labels our common herbs as "toxic substances". So the neem, fragrant lemongrass, ginger, galangal, turmeric, Chinese celery and chilli - all have suddenly become toxic substances.

Are they crazy?

Most probably not, because this announcement has the fingerprints of agro-chemical multinational corporations all over it.

Four decades after the Green Revolution which introduced heavy use of farm chemicals to increase productivity, it has become recognised wordwide how dangerous these chemicals are to our earth.

Apart from killing the soil and contaminating the waterways as well as underground water, the toxic residues permanently stay in the natural environment, causing great damage throughout the entire food chain.

While over-exposure to toxic chemical pesticides has killed countless farmers, the dangerous residues are also believed to be one of the most important environmental causes for the dramatic rise in cancer worldwide.

Thailand is among the heaviest users of toxic farm chemicals in Southeast Asia. And probably the most reckless......

For once we agree on something.

Give it some time, I expect quite a bit of agreement emerging. :o

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I doubt it.....ever heard of codex alimentarus....

"So what does all this have to do with Organic Farming and Natural Health? Part of the New World Order agenda is to remove the requirement for food labelling & to restrict and ultimately prohibit the sale of all natural health products. According to John Hammell, a legislative advocate and the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF), here is what we have to look forward to:

“If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly and its bosses, the major pharmaceutical firms.”

However, this is just the tip of the iceberg; behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission are the United Nations and the World Health Organization, working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. It is now a criminal offence in parts of Europe to sell herbs as foods. An agreement called EEC6565 equates selling herbs as foods to selling other illegal drugs. Action is being taken to accelerate bringing other European countries into ‘harmonisation’."

If the worst comes true it will become illegal to sell vitamins without a prescription (at least the vitamins that actually do any good i.e. the ones with some actual good dosage) May be consipracy theory over reaction....but has me a little concerned....I think it is supposed to come into force december this year :o

I'm also wondering about these things. Most of the natural remedies regulated by the multinational companies and organisations, more and more vaccines mandatory, more and more dog breeds or mixes of these breeds not allowed as pets anymore (pets can have an enormous positive influence on the health of people), etc. That seems the way it goes in the States, and the rest of the world follows.

Take all the goodies away, make the people weak, easier to control. :D

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Did I miss to read the reason for these substances to be labeled as 'toxic'?

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Did I miss to read the reason for these substances to be labeled as 'toxic'?

Maybe because CP doesn't sell them....

I think two of them are in a typical Tom Yom Goum, Tom Kar Guy/Pla t too.

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I doubt it.....ever heard of codex alimentarus....

You better stop asking these questions Girl.....

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I doubt it.....ever heard of codex alimentarus....

"So what does all this have to do with Organic Farming and Natural Health? Part of the New World Order agenda is to remove the requirement for food labelling & to restrict and ultimately prohibit the sale of all natural health products. According to John Hammell, a legislative advocate and the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF), here is what we have to look forward to:

"If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly and its bosses, the major pharmaceutical firms."

However, this is just the tip of the iceberg; behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission are the United Nations and the World Health Organization, working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. It is now a criminal offence in parts of Europe to sell herbs as foods. An agreement called EEC6565 equates selling herbs as foods to selling other illegal drugs. Action is being taken to accelerate bringing other European countries into 'harmonisation'."

If the worst comes true it will become illegal to sell vitamins without a prescription (at least the vitamins that actually do any good i.e. the ones with some actual good dosage) May be consipracy theory over reaction....but has me a little concerned....I think it is supposed to come into force december this year :o

You misunderstood or ill informed about the EU rules for herbs. The EU rules don't prohibit selling herbs as food or vitamins at all. There are numerous shops and supermarkets who sell vitamins based on herbs. In most EU countries Homoeopathic drugs are even paid back by the National health service. The EU implement this rules after people get sick and even die because of imported herbs from China who where of bad quality and even toxic. The EU only like to have a guarantee of quality to protect the EU consumer.

You should know that the EU has very strict rules to protect the consumer. BTW organic farming is more and more popular in the EU. In the fruit industry they even use insects now as an natural enemy for some diseases. All fruit is tested for chemical residue's before it can be sold.

The use of chemical fertilizers is under strict control. Many chemical fertilizers are now banned in the EU. The same go's for meat production, any kind of hormones are strictly forbidden. Also the use of antibiotics for cattle, pig's and chickens is forbidden . One of the reasons that American meat is banned in the EU.

Also manipulated genetic wheat and other crops are scrutinized by the EU

Food safety in the EU is of the utmost importance. The EU consumer is one of the best protected in the world.

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