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Norwegian Woman And American Woman Die Of Unknown Causes on Koh Phi Phi

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EDITORIAL: Everyone deserve answers

The two deaths of a Norwegian and American tourist must be solved without delay. *As pointed in Post # 72, there's actually been five very recent deaths.*

The deaths of a Norwegian and American tourist at Phi Phi have created the kind of headlines the Andaman coast doesn’t need now. More than 500,000 Scandinavians are expected to visit the Andaman coast in 2009. These cases need to be solved without delay by the authorities.

The grieving relatives of Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen, Norway and Jill Sheree St. Onge (27) from Seattle, USA deserve answers on how two healthy young women who were taking a break at Phi Phi Islands suddenly died within hours last weekend.

It is also in the best interest of the tourism sectors that these cases are solved within days. Local news media, with the exception of Phuket Wan and Andaman Times, have not reported on the suspicious deaths.

Newspapers from Norway and the US are following these cases closely. A number of journalists are currently in the Andaman region or on their way to push further and try to get the answers. Representatives of the Norwegian police, which is stationed in Bangkok, are reportedly in Phuket as an observant.

The grieving relatives of 27 year old Jill Sheree St. Onge, who was waiting for her to return home after a three month trip to Asia, demands answers. They are frustrated from lack of answers to what happened to their daughter, sister and fiancé.

- My young and vibrant 27 year old daughter Jill Sheree St. Onge from Seattle, WA suddenly died May 1st while vacationing in Thailand on the Island of Koh Phi Phi Don, writes the grieving mother on her blog.

There are other unanswered questions. Another Norwegian died one month ago, and according to the Norwegian police he was staying in the same guesthouse at Phi Phi. These is also another cases, as reported by Phuket Gazette over the weekend, where a corpse of a foreigner was found floating off Phi Phi the same weekend Ms. Bergheim and Ms. St. Onge fell ill and died.

In her latest blog entry, Ms St. Onge, gives the region the kind of exposure it deserves:

“hey hey! We’re in koh phi phi right now. It’s off the west coast of Thailand about a 2 hour boat ride from krabi. So amazing. …just drinking eating and living so cheaply and having a blast. Food, drink, good books, sun and warm waters… What else do ya need? have just been wondering why we don’t live here.”

Thailand and the Andaman region doesn’t need more bad press and unsolved deaths. We demand answers.

- Andaman Times / 2009-05-07

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Only 1 person for the job! Khunying Pornthip Rojanasunand M.D.

A Bangkok special epidemiologist is already on Phi Phi, seeking to find the reason behind the mysterious fatalities.

Thailand's top forensic scientist, Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand, is expected to be involved in autopsies to determine what killed the women.

- Phuket Wan / 2009-05-06

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balo    5,504

The biggest newspaper in Norway, Aftenposten with this story today:

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article3062737.ece

Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen died Monday at a hospital in Phuket in Thailand after being poisoned in the popular resort of Phi Phi .

The local police on the island launched an investigation of the incident, and the preliminary autopsy report shows that Bergheim had cyanide in the stomach.

- The police were surprised by the discovery

- To our great surprise, it was found cyanide in her stomach. It was so surprising that the body was sent to a new autopsy in Bangkok, the police chief Nopadon Klom Thong on Phi Phi Islands told Nettavisen.

Cyanide is highly toxic and can kill a human , even in low concentrations.

The poison works very quickly. It causes internal suffocation with a characteristic blue colour of the skin, according to Wikipedia.

It is not known whether it was cyanide poisoning that killed Bergheim. The police still have no reason to believe that there is something criminal behind the death. The final autopsy report is not ready until about six to seven months.

Bergheim traveled with a 20-year-old girlfriend from Central Norway. The two are students in Australia, and had been visiting Phi Phi on the way home to Norway.

The 20 year old was also acutely ill, but survived, and now receive treatment at Phuket hosptal, according to Adressa.no.

The hospital in Thailand said that the women may have been poisoned by a drink they shared together.

The death is connected to an American woman (27) who died under similar circumstances. She lived in the apartment next to the Norwegian women in a guest house.

The 20 year old have told her friends that they both throwing up when they came home from the city around 2 in the morning.

The students believed then it was a response to the alcohol they had consumed, but soon it got a lot worse. Both startes throwing up over a hundred times and was sent to the local hospital on Phi Phi.

Late Sunday evening the 20 year old was transferred to the Phuket hospital , on the mainland five miles away.

- When she arrived at the hospital, she had been sick for almost 24 hours and throwing up many times. Despite the fact that she was heavily dehydrated she continued to vommiting, and the first thing we had to do was to restore the fluid balance.

All this had also led her into a state of chock, she was very depressed and her stress level was very high , " explain Doctor Bodin La-ied to Nettavisen.

As a result of the woman's physical and mental health, she is being followed up by a psychiatrist.

Urine and blood samples have been taken , but the results are probably not ready until about two weeks.

Another Norwegian who died in April with the same symptoms, , lived in the same hotel as Julie Michelle Bergheim, according to dt.no.

- The autopsy report is still not ready, "says Tor Steinhagen to the newspaper

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balo    5,504

Maybe its about time to have the name of this guest house ??

And I hope the owner and staff there are cooperating with the police to find the cause of this tragedy.

:)

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Valentine    2,026

My condolences to the families concerned.

I realise it is unwise to speculate until all the facts are out but by reading these posts there appears to be a lot of confusion & misinformation, intentional or otherwise, & the way it is being handled or mishandled by the authorities the true facts may never be revealed. Anyway, has anyone considered this could be the work of a serial killer?

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JR Texas    1
laleena house is the name of the place!!

Oh no.........this is very tragic for the victims/families.

It is also yet another blow to tourism.........a serious one.

I hope they catch the person or persons responsible for this.

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The biggest newspaper in Norway, Aftenposten with this story today:

Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen died Monday at a hospital in Phuket in Thailand after being poisoned in the popular resort of Phi Phi .

Thank you again for your translations, balo. :)

Have you come across across any information in Norway that identifies

1. Julie's traveling companion?

2. The other young Norwegian woman that diedl?

3. The middle-aged Norwegian man that died?

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phuketrex    0

...and still not a report about this in the PhuketGazette! yet the instant a tourist falls off a motorbike and gets squashed under a truck and dies they report it.

This is a response from Ryan Kells, Jills' fiance, to the poorly written Phuketwan article>>>

"I was Jills fiancee. For a doctor to say that she was drinking was ridiculous. Jill had been Ill since the afternoon. How could she have told nurse anything. She was unconcious by the time I got her to the hospital. This article makes me irate. There is a water treatment plant right next to the guesthouse. How coincidental for 3 people to have the same symptoms, 2 die and 1 in ICU. We stayed right next door to the Norwegian girls. There is a chemical that killed two girls and almost one more. I cant even begin to believe that this doctor would lie about jills case. Let me repeat. Jill had no alcohol that night. It had nothing to do with a hangover. I can not believe that anyone would make up such a lie."

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balo    5,504
The biggest newspaper in Norway, Aftenposten with this story today:

Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen died Monday at a hospital in Phuket in Thailand after being poisoned in the popular resort of Phi Phi .

Thank you again for your translations, balo. :)

Have you come across across any information in Norway that identifies

1. Julie's traveling companion?

2. The other young Norwegian woman that diedl?

3. The middle-aged Norwegian man that died?

I'm sorry , no names have been released over here except Julie Bergheim .

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The biggest newspaper in Norway, Aftenposten with this story today:

Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen died Monday at a hospital in Phuket in Thailand after being poisoned in the popular resort of Phi Phi .

Thank you again for your translations, balo. :)

Have you come across across any information in Norway that identifies

1. Julie's traveling companion?

2. The other young Norwegian woman that diedl?

3. The middle-aged Norwegian man that died?

I'm sorry , no names have been released over here except Julie Bergheim .

Thank you for trying and please let us know if any are given in the future. With this topic now expanded to covering 5 unexplained deaths and 1 near-death, it could go a long way in helping everyone to sort out who's who.

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phuketrex    0
Thank you for trying and please let us know if any are given in the future. With this topic now expanded to covering 5 unexplained deaths and 1 near-death, it could go a long way in helping everyone to sort out who's who.

5?

Jill St. Onge

Julie Bergheim

The man found in the sea at the weekend

The middleaged Norwegian a month ago

Who is the 5th?

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brahmburgers    27

suggest to investigators:

>>> do a thorough check on the water treatment facilities, particularly the one near the guest house.

>>> close the guesthouse up tight for now. Don't allow anyone to stay there now!

>>> medically examine those who have recently stayed/worked at the guesthouse.

>>> thoroughly examine the air.con units there. ....and the water

Earlier, I had speculated that it might be Legionnaires disease - though now looks doubtful, as L.disease is like a bad flu, and doesn't debilitate quickly.

Seeing the photos of the vibrant two young women - really jabs the reality home. How sad, really.

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baabaabobo    12
...and still not a report about this in the PhuketGazette! yet the instant a tourist falls off a motorbike and gets squashed under a truck and dies they report it.

This is a response from Ryan Kells, Jills' fiance, to the poorly written Phuketwan article>>>

"I was Jills fiancee. For a doctor to say that she was drinking was ridiculous. Jill had been Ill since the afternoon. How could she have told nurse anything. She was unconcious by the time I got her to the hospital. This article makes me irate. There is a water treatment plant right next to the guesthouse. How coincidental for 3 people to have the same symptoms, 2 die and 1 in ICU. We stayed right next door to the Norwegian girls. There is a chemical that killed two girls and almost one more. I cant even begin to believe that this doctor would lie about jills case. Let me repeat. Jill had no alcohol that night. It had nothing to do with a hangover. I can not believe that anyone would make up such a lie."

I guess the Phuket Gazette is busy finding out the true facts before putting out a story. When it involves grieving families, tourism and suspicious circumstances it would be irresponsible to rush a story like this as above.

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...and still not a report about this in the PhuketGazette! yet the instant a tourist falls off a motorbike and gets squashed under a truck and dies they report it.

This is a response from Ryan Kells, Jills' fiance, to the poorly written Phuketwan article>>>

"I was Jills fiancee. For a doctor to say that she was drinking was ridiculous. Jill had been Ill since the afternoon. How could she have told nurse anything. She was unconcious by the time I got her to the hospital. This article makes me irate. There is a water treatment plant right next to the guesthouse. How coincidental for 3 people to have the same symptoms, 2 die and 1 in ICU. We stayed right next door to the Norwegian girls. There is a chemical that killed two girls and almost one more. I cant even begin to believe that this doctor would lie about jills case. Let me repeat. Jill had no alcohol that night. It had nothing to do with a hangover. I can not believe that anyone would make up such a lie."

So, despite the previous assertions that the Norwegian girls rented the same room immediately after, it seems that is not necessarily true?

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