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Help, Why Does One Need To Put A Wardrobe In Front Of A Buddha Image?

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So, you've created a shrine for Buddha, placing a statuette on an elevated space above the dresser. But (according to your Thai partner) it is crucial that 'Buddha' (=the image) doesn't

watch you doing things that adults of different genders sometimes do.. :)

Now, do you really have to rearrange all furniture, putting the wardrobe in front of the image, or are there other ways to eliminate the chance that 'Buddha' can watch you doing 'the dirty'? :D

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Buddhism is somewhat unique in that it is not a religion per se and thus has no rules. There is really no "crucial" in the Dharma teachings. But for many, since Buddha is seen as a teacher worthy of respect, it is inappropriate to have sex in front of his image, just as I would imagine one would not have sex in front of one's priest, minister or rabbi. Everything is done according to the practitioner's own beliefs so if one holds the teachings (not the Buddha image) in high regard, one reinforces that internally by not doing things he or she may feel would be disrespectful.

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Install a miniature set of curtains. :)

Good idea, but impractical. :D

Problem is, that the image has to be in that particular place, but it shouldn't 'watch nighttime activities'.. BTW, is this a Buddhist, or a Thai thing??

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Buddhism is somewhat unique in that it is not a religion per se and thus has no rules. There is really no "crucial" in the Dharma teachings. But for many, since Buddha is seen as a teacher worthy of respect, it is inappropriate to have sex in front of his image, just as I would imagine one would not have sex in front of one's priest, minister or rabbi. Everything is done according to the practitioner's own beliefs so if one holds the teachings (not the Buddha image) in high regard, one reinforces that internally by not doing things he or she may feel would be disrespectful.

Good point, Yamantaka. I'm a converted Buddhist myself, and I don't have a problem with that, as I just presume, that the image, which is well above and away from the bed, won't care or even pay attention to what is going on on the other side of the room. But for my partner it is a big problem. And therefore for me too, as I don't want to move the wardrobe to a 'weird' place close to the door, as I really like the current furniture arrangement..

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The statue is plastic or metal. "It" isn't 'watching.' Nor does 'it' eat the food offerings.

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The statue is plastic or metal. "It" isn't 'watching.' Nor does 'it' eat the food offerings.

Well, explaining this to a Thai, will, more often than not, result in an angry reaction, not dissimilar to the one of a three-year old.. :)

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The statue is plastic or metal. "It" isn't 'watching.' Nor does 'it' eat the food offerings.

.... a sane view of the reality of this philosophy is all about in it's very essence and NOT what people

read into it!

Don't believe the BS!

Think yourself and use common sense!

If nobody ever would have sex and abstained from it, abstained from seeing beauty in the genders,

where would the monks coming from?

is imho the same as with this Mary and the the immaculate Conception stuff!

It can't watch, if it is not alive, an image is an image, an image is an image, an image.......is like this cross thing...

is like a very, very conservative, repressed view of something very natural - as having sex, being naked,

this is pre-victorian thinking, no good and certainly no useful in either way!

For a monk there are rules, for a layman there are rules, but aren't the general rules already enough?

Did this help anybody for the past 2550 (or so) years?

This is the sort of stuff why the Taliban have blown up the ancient Buddhas statues at Bamian!

Where the Shador, Burqua and all this stuff set's in - middle aged rural dwelling laws!

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Well, explaining this to a Thai, will, more often than not, result in an angry reaction, not dissimilar to the one of a three-year old.. :)

The function of a Buddha image is to remind us to be mindful, but that isn't something you really need in the bedroom. Better to have the Buddha image in another room. Obviously, your partner feels very uncomfortable about this, feeling that the image is sacred and that ideally one refrains from sensual pleasure. The problem here is how your partner feels rather than how the Buddha image feels. No amount of logical argument will change that.

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Well, explaining this to a Thai, will, more often than not, result in an angry reaction, not dissimilar to the one of a three-year old.. :)

The function of a Buddha image is to remind us to be mindful, but that isn't something you really need in the bedroom. Better to have the Buddha image in another room. Obviously, your partner feels very uncomfortable about this, feeling that the image is sacred and that ideally one refrains from sensual pleasure. The problem here is how your partner feels rather than how the Buddha image feels.

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No amount of logical argument will change that.

...till then I will not rest trying to change that....!

Cause if the same people still go to the temple, worship a stone, bronce, or any other image, place a green or red Fanta, serve food and make donations to monks for the ONLY purpose of having a better life or this or that, a more dedicated lover, husband or the right lottery numbers - I will not rest and simply "accept" this - for me it's is the base of all ignorance, of distorting the meaning of what this man, the "Buddha" has been trying to teach, to give to the people... it's has nothing to do with middle aged chastity and all these weird other remnants from animism and worshiping ghosts and spirits!

Nor I will ever accept monks who support this BS!

Same as with all other man made images of ANY god or deity, they are simple sculptures, images....

"it can't be named, thought, touched or in any other form be represented - it's beyond this!"

Absolute Reality or universal substrate it is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and ultimately indescribable in human language.

in that sense camerata is right, it's a statue of a teacher, which one may pay respect and yes to remind one of being mindful - for me this is an immense contradiction!

But well.... it's the world as we perceive it, as we make it, as we are conditioned to...

Or would anyone in his/her right mind worship a garden gnome of some sort?

It's a statue as the other one, we fall into the trap of thinking, are lost in believing it has a higher meaning, it doesn't!

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I wonder how many of our Buddhist members have actually had sex in front of a Buddha image and felt totally comfortable about it? I don't even have one in my bedroom.

On the other hand, a couple of weeks ago I was groped by a Thai gay guy in a Chiang Mai temple in front of an enormous Buddha image. He obviously didn't feel uncomfortable about it. :)

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The statue is plastic or metal. "It" isn't 'watching.' Nor does 'it' eat the food offerings.

interesting. My last GF is a very devout Buddhist. She had a shrine at the head of her bed. It was never a problem for her.

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I wonder how many of our Buddhist members have actually had sex in front of a Buddha image and felt totally comfortable about it? I don't even have one in my bedroom.

On the other hand, a couple of weeks ago I was groped by a Thai gay guy in a Chiang Mai temple in front of an enormous Buddha image. He obviously didn't feel uncomfortable about it. :)

Imho:

I think it's missing the point, it's neither the statuette,

nor sex or having sex in front of a statuette and feeling comfortable about it,

neither of someones sexual ambitions in front of one such statuette!

It's how one sees it... it a reminder at best, it can't see it can't be hurt and that what this supposed to represent for some - can't be soiled, destroyed or in ant other way degraded!

Everyone who has a problem with this - is conditioned and stuck there somewhere!

As I wrote who in his good mind would worship a garden gnome because the looks of it are so "austere"?

So why then worship a statuette?, No matter what or whom it supposed to represent!

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So why then worship a statuette?, No matter what or whom it supposed to represent!

Agreed.

I've never had any issues performing natural functions in front of a Buddha statue.

Having said that, do you think Buddha statues have their place with those who are at the beginning of their journey?

Those very much still anchored in the ego & who initially turn to the Dhamma for selfish reasons might find power & motivation in symbols.

Eventually their practice will take a hold & the true nature of the stature will begin to become apparent.

Naturally those anchored in superstition with no inclination to study & practice actual Dhamma will remain attached to their life long beliefs.

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Say no. I gave in too turning the bed around so as feet were not pointing, but when the next request would have meant putting furniture in front of the window, I said no. I told her not to worry and that the statue would be asleep too. It worked.

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