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Thailand’s World Trade Center (central World) Destroyed

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It is ironic that Central World first opened in 1990 and was called the World Trade Center. In 2002 it was renamed to Central World Plaza. And in 2005 it was renamed to CentralWorld.

When I first came to Thailand, it was the CentralWorld area that I could see the modernization of Thailand. At the time, the plaza had holiday decorations and several beer gardens with live music. It seemed to be an icon of modern Thailand. The large display in the plaza showed music videos. Inside, the shops were expensive, but there was an abundant of inexpensive places to eat. The food court overlooked a green space area.

But this was not a facility for everyone. Just down the street there were hundreds of street vendors, whom this facility was not built for.

The burning of CentralWorld seems to be an indication of the struggle between the haves and the have-nots. This current conflict may be resolved, but such conflicts will not disappear. Is this the beginning of an uprising that may disappear for several years and reappear even stronger in the future?

I do not side with any past government body. I only see that this may be an indication that the have-nots are voicing their opinion.

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If they'd burnt Gaysorn it would have been more symbolic and inconvenienced less people.

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So you think the street vendors burnt it down?

I don't think their customers would be shopping in CentralWorld.

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Not symbolic in any way, just a case of what can we destroy on the way out......

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Why would it impact Thai society? Only hi-so folk shop there and a good portion of Thai society could not afford to shop there. It is the burning of an ultra large shop house. Many others to go to.

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So you think the street vendors burnt it down?

I don't think their customers would be shopping in CentralWorld.

It got scorched guess but how do you burn down a concrete building ?

I am no structural engineer but will they actually have to demolish the building or just replace some glass and drywall ? I think the structure should be fine.

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SOkal,

If you used google for just 5 minutes before posting you could avoid sounding a bit silly...

Can you seriously not figure out how high temperatures would change the structural safety of builings made from steel/iron reinforced concrete?

I'm no scientist but I would question the safety of a very tall building that is filled with the general public that has been subjected to extreme heat. Maybe I am just an overcautious ninny. But I think most civil engineers would back me on this one. Insurance underwriters too... :)

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Thank goodness for 'have' insurance.

:)

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SOkal,

If you used google for just 5 minutes before posting you could avoid sounding a bit silly...

Can you seriously not figure out how high temperatures would change the structural safety of builings made from steel/iron reinforced concrete?

I'm no scientist but I would question the safety of a very tall building that is filled with the general public that has been subjected to extreme heat. Maybe I am just an overcautious ninny. But I think most civil engineers would back me on this one. Insurance underwriters too... :)

Do you consider some out of control garbage can fire extreme heat ? I am not saying you are wrong but lets see you make a campfire out of concrete, steel and glass.

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SOkal,

If you used google for just 5 minutes before posting you could avoid sounding a bit silly...

Can you seriously not figure out how high temperatures would change the structural safety of builings made from steel/iron reinforced concrete?

I'm no scientist but I would question the safety of a very tall building that is filled with the general public that has been subjected to extreme heat. Maybe I am just an overcautious ninny. But I think most civil engineers would back me on this one. Insurance underwriters too... :)

Do you consider some out of control garbage can fire extreme heat ? I am not saying you are wrong but lets see you make a campfire out of concrete, steel and glass.

Parts of the structure have already collapsed.

And yes an out of control garbage can fire could produce extreme heat, depends on fuel and air flow.

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Thank goodness for 'have' insurance.

:)

Don't most insurance policies have exclusions for acts of terrorism and war?

Either way someone is punching a wall right now.

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SOkal,

If you used google for just 5 minutes before posting you could avoid sounding a bit silly...

Can you seriously not figure out how high temperatures would change the structural safety of builings made from steel/iron reinforced concrete?

I'm no scientist but I would question the safety of a very tall building that is filled with the general public that has been subjected to extreme heat. Maybe I am just an overcautious ninny. But I think most civil engineers would back me on this one. Insurance underwriters too... :)

Do you consider some out of control garbage can fire extreme heat ? I am not saying you are wrong but lets see you make a campfire out of concrete, steel and glass.

Ok, Not my own work but I think you get the picture...

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Seriously, fella. Go enjoy a drink and girl by the beach. This serious stuff might be a bit much for you.

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It won't affect me too much, it was too far to walk from the BTS and the carpark was a shocking to get in and out of.

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If they'd burnt Gaysorn it would have been more symbolic and inconvenienced less people.

True. Gaysorn very hi-so...Central World...mid-market. I'm sure Thaksin is happy Gaysorn and its L-V botique was spared (a courtesey to their leader I suppose) ...will save him trips to Paris for shopping when he returns :)

Sad for all the shop girls, cleaning staff, and security guards (Issan Reds?) have lost their jobs and all the small shop owners that may have lost everything.

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Why would it impact Thai society? Only hi-so folk shop there and a good portion of Thai society could not afford to shop there. It is the burning of an ultra large shop house. Many others to go to.

hundreds of restaurants with food supplied by red shirt farmers

countless workers out of a job, no more money send to red shirt family

countless taxi drivers out of a job, no more money send to red shirt family

countless delivery truck drivers out of a job, no more money send to red shirt family

need i go on. Its stupid thinking like yours that gets these poor people in trouble, they don't see the big picture. Before they were getting screwed a few baht on their rice, now they wont sell any. They might have to rethink, and learn just basic economics. Everybody is connected to their rice bowl in some manner

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I do think it is Thailand's 9/11 and things won't go on as they have for decades now.

Whether or not Thaksin is factored into the mix doesn't matter at this point.

As to effect, I have been with two Thai friends today in Los Angeles and both wept when they saw the fotos of CentralWorld.

Both are from Isaan and are ethnic Thai.

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MCOT: Fire at Central World under control but side of Zen department store building begins to collapse, says Police Operation Centre spokesman: AFP

still not convinced, Sokal ?

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SOkal,

If you used google for just 5 minutes before posting you could avoid sounding a bit silly...

Can you seriously not figure out how high temperatures would change the structural safety of builings made from steel/iron reinforced concrete?

I'm no scientist but I would question the safety of a very tall building that is filled with the general public that has been subjected to extreme heat. Maybe I am just an overcautious ninny. But I think most civil engineers would back me on this one. Insurance underwriters too... :)

Do you consider some out of control garbage can fire extreme heat ? I am not saying you are wrong but lets see you make a campfire out of concrete, steel and glass.

Foolish man, the mall was ENGULFED in flames floor by floor. What exactly do you think is going on here? A few peaceful protestors lighting a bit of garbage on fire and we are all making too much of it? Im getting sick of people trying to downplay the severity of the crimes being committed by terrorists.

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Thank goodness for 'have' insurance.

:)

Don't most insurance policies have exclusions for acts of terrorism and war?

Either way someone is punching a wall right now.

I'm sure it'll be spun by all parties involved into a nice compromise. The bent over and screwed position is for the little people.

:D

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I do think it is Thailand's 9/11 and things won't go on as they have for decades now.

I think that's a bit of a stretch. Yes, perhaps both involved the destruction of a major iconic building, but the destruction of Central World didn't cause the deaths of thousands of people. No comparison there.

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