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Brit Poses As A Millionaire To Steal Back His Son From The Thai Lady He Once Called His Wife

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One wonders what the police was doing. Since Thailand is not a signatory party to the treaty on parental abduction, the child was staying legally with the mother in Thailand. Thailand doesn't recognised a court order from a foreign judge. Why was the police involved?

Maybe the police realised the boy was better of with his dad

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Very clever and cunning!

good luck to both of them. greed is a great way to go after people.

and the kid has chipped teath, probably head first over handle bars of a push bike or similar as most kids do at one time or another, and the mother not being able to afford treatment or maybe she is just a bitch, who knows! :angry:

anyway, at least the young lad is in good hands now.

How do you know the young boy is in good hands?

jeez! not too hard to work out is it? :unsure:

:lol:

First of all, I believe the story is from the Daily Mirror newspaper (I use that term gaurdedly) which has a proven dislike for anything Thai. See previous posts...in which simply living in Thailand is equated with living in "squalor" also by the Mirror.

Secondly, I don't disagree that the child may be better off financially and for lifestyle advantages in the U.K. I have no information regarding the child except what I read in this news story...so I assume that the boy is happier in the U.K. However, there is no proof of that is there? Just the word of the Daily Mirror and it's anti Thai bias to go on.

The point I want to make is that this story just automatically assumes that his MOTHER, being Thai, is somehow less likely to love the boy than her FATHER (who being a Brit is naturally superior to her). To be fair, for all I know she may be a true B_tch...but there is no proof of that.

I'm not quibbling here, but simply making the assumption that the boy living in the U.K. seperated from his mother, will automatically be happier than living in Thailand is something that may be an assertion...but requires proof to be true.

:lol:

You might not like the Daily Mirror for your reason, but if a person has been to Thailand and lived there it doesn't take much to assume from the story all it all began and of course I will be the first to admit that is a asumption? But reading your opinion it is full of asumptions from beginning to end because you don't like the Daily Mirror and that itself is why your opinions are so negative. Read the story and not be part of the story?

Personally, I don't think a father would go through all this trouble so he can bring him back to abuse him. I'm happy for him? It's not easy for either party especially when the two live in different countries, I wish things were different since the child always suffers when there is a divorce. But as far as the child is concern lets hope that he does have a better life with the father and I believe the mother gave him up knowing that once she return to Thailand where she was living was reality. Allowing the son to leave so easily with the father is the Thai way of saying just that and I hope the father reads this " no matter what happen to you and the childs mother open your heart and not let your son forget her " your love for him got him back now allow that love to continue and teach him right!

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Very wise move. I'll guess the boy will have a lot better childhood together with his father in UK, than he ever would in the Thai village. Most Thais don't have a clue on how to raise kids to be a healthy minded adult. The highest priority seems to learn the "sawasdee" word and gesture. Call my cynical, but personally I'm glad I still don't have any children here.

What's most important for the child is to have consistency, love and support. That can and does occur in Thailand. There is good and bad everywhere. Certainly there is more opportunity in Western countries, but what a child requires is what will cause him/her to develop self-confidence.

Very true. But, as I wrote earlier. Most Thais doesn't have a clue on how to raise, nor to show consistency, love and support. I have seen way to many neglected and psychologically disturbed young kids (and teenagers) here. The girls are taught to merry someone rich and bring money home to mom and and dad, in order to be "loved" back. It is even common to treat all the kids different from the parents side. On a group with 4 children, 1 or 2 are are getting all the love and attention from the parents. The rest doesn't receive the same love and respect from the parents, which then will suffer from psychological problems and try to do whatever then can in order to try to make their parents love them. They are becoming the family slaves, which probably is good for the survival of the others.

I've seen it so much during my years here.

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Very common occurrence when you marry a bar girl. Especially if you take her to live in some dreary English town. They miss the action.

The full article explains things in more details and answers some questions asked here

DK

It was the moment Sean Felton had dreamt about.

Shaking, he knelt down and scooped his son up into his arms.

The lad's face split into a huge grin as he kissed his dad on the cheek and finally Sean knew his nightmare was over.

Six months earlier Jobe, three, had been taken 6,000 miles away by his Thai mother, Kim and Sean despaired of seeing his son again.

But after police failed to reunite them, he set a {cunning internet trap forex-wife Kim. He posed as a handsome young Ferrari-owning millionaire on Facebook convinced she would be unable to resist.

Sean says: "I was heartbroken when Kim took him to Thailand. I didnt want to livemy life not {knowing my son. She was {determined to evade me, so I hatched a plan I knew would reel her in.

Last week father and son returned to their four-bedroom house in Cannock, Staffs.

Sean, 43, who runs a decorating firm, met Kim while on holiday with a pal.

He says: The last thing I was looking for was love.

But he fell for Kim, 30, after she approached him in a bar and offered to show himaround.

After two weeks we were {inseparable, he says.

Sean who had been divorced for 10 years flew home a week later but could notstop thinking about her.

A month later he went back to see his beautiful Thai girlfriend and proposed after three weeks.

They wed on New Years Day 2006 in a Buddhist ceremony then came to England to start their life together.

In July 2007, Kim also known as Saowapak gave birth to Jobe.

But soon afterwards their {relationship began to founder.

Sean says: "I came home one day from work to find Jobe alone in his cot. Kim had gone out shopping with a friend. I explained mums don't do that here but she kept doing it.

"After a while she was going out at night with her friends she claimed they wereparties for Thai women only. But when I picked her up one night I saw a group of men coming out of her friends house.

"After months of sleeping in separate bedrooms I asked for a divorce.

"On March 26 this year Kim fled the country, taking Jobe with her."

Sean says: "She called me two days later laughing and said she was home."

Police and a private investigator failed to find his son. Then he had his brainwave.

He says: "I lay in bed one night imagining Jobe alone and scared, living in squalor, and it occurred to me that I might be able to find Kim on Facebook.

"After trawling through dozens of Saowapaks her face popped up. She'd changed her surname but it was her.

"I knew she wouldn't accept a friend request from me so I came up with the idea of posing as a millionaire looking for love. I set up a fake account with a picture of a man with a Ferrari and sent her a friend request. She fell for it."

With access to her profile, Sean scoured it for clues to her whereabouts. When he came across photos of Kim with a French tourist, Sean contacted him and told him what had happened.

The Frenchman confirmed that Kim and Jobe were in a hut in a remote village in Chiang Rai.

Sean went to the High Court to get legal custody of his son then flew to Thailand, where police agreed to help him search for Jobe.

He says: "My heart was pounding as we entered the village."

As police surrounded the house, Sean called out for Jobe. Kim stumbled out and pointed indoors.

Sean says: "Jobe was in the corner. I could hardly speak. I managed to say, 'Hello son', and crawl towards him with my arms out.

"He looked scared to death at first but once he realised it was me he fell into my arms and kissed my cheek.

"His teeth were chipped and they'd cut his hair. He looked like an orphan. It was so emotional to hold him in my arms again."

Sean had one final sleepless night away from Jobe before Kim and her family handed him over at the local police station.

Sean says: "Afterwards Kim and I flew to Bangkok because she wanted us to spend a week together before I took Jobe home. I was on tenterhooks. I didn't trust her. I kept thinking she'd try and take him.

"She told me she'd let him go if I paid for us all to stay in a five-star hotel. She claimed she wanted to spend time with Jobe but I think she just wanted a free holiday. I didn't let her out of my sight."

Finally, Sean flew home with his son.

He says: "I ran as fast as I could to the plane, carrying Jobe. I didn't breathe properly until we landed.

"Now he's starting to look like the boy who disappeared six months ago. Every day he looks healthier. Every moment is so precious. I've cried tears of joy ever since getting him home."

He adds: "I thought my relationship with Kim was genuine, but I was a fool."

Last night Kim denied she would leave Jobe alone in the UK and said: "Sean wouldn't get my British citizenship for me. What was I supposed to do? I don't feel bad about taking Jobe to Thailand. He is my son and I love him. I might have done wrong in the UK, but in my country I haven't.

"I agreed to let Sean take him back to the UK because I know he will look after him.

"We both love Jobe and I don't want to fight any more. I still want to see my son. I hope to come soon."

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I served there, went back in the 1990's for a construction job and the place was more dowdy and run down than I remembered it from the late 50's.

Good to see we have an expert here with his up to date knowledge from 20 years ago. laugh.gif

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Very wise move. I'll guess the boy will have a lot better childhood together with his father in UK, than he ever would in the Thai village. Most Thais don't have a clue on how to raise kids to be a healthy minded adult. The highest priority seems to learn the "sawasdee" word and gesture. Call my cynical, but personally I'm glad I still don't have any children here.

What's most important for the child is to have consistency, love and support. That can and does occur in Thailand. There is good and bad everywhere. Certainly there is more opportunity in Western countries, but what a child requires is what will cause him/her to develop self-confidence.

Very true. But, as I wrote earlier. Most Thais doesn't have a clue on how to raise, nor to show consistency, love and support. I have seen way to many neglected and psychologically disturbed young kids (and teenagers) here. The girls are taught to merry someone rich and bring money home to mom and and dad, in order to be "loved" back. It is even common to treat all the kids different from the parents side. On a group with 4 children, 1 or 2 are are getting all the love and attention from the parents. The rest doesn't receive the same love and respect from the parents, which then will suffer from psychological problems and try to do whatever then can in order to try to make their parents love them. They are becoming the family slaves, which probably is good for the survival of the others.

I've seen it so much during my years here.

I have to agree. I've seen it too. But they are not all that way. Especially the educated. That was my point. What you describe more often occurs in the poorer farming villages.

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Thai lady woman. Let's have a bit of equality here.

Equality?! You obviously dont know your English very well. Lady is a term of respect and is used is as a term of enderement certainly not as a derogatory use.

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I've been through this and have achieved a very satisfactory outcome. My son was only 9 months old when Isaan girl admitted that she had told another man that he was the Dad and upped and left. (We had only been together a couple of months, and then only because of the kid).

I tracked her down, engaged a lawyer and went through the Family courts in Khorat. The Thai magistrates, without actually saying it, made it clear that they were on my side and that all I had to do was hang in there. After about a year of wrangling I was awarded 10 days a month custody, initially with a neutral nanny.

When he reached 4 years old the question of where he shoiuld be educated was discussed and I took the posiiton that if I was to pay then he should be in my custody in school time. All agreed and so he now effectively lives with me. (Thai schools have very short holidays).

I am not going to make light of the process. It was sheer hel_l as she did everything she could to obstruct, but as I said the court made it clear that they understood where his best interests lay, so I was encouraged to keep up the battle.

Just play completely by the book and you will get there eventually. And believe me your sons will be pleased you did.

Good luck and Bon Courage as the French would say.

As a father of two sons, and facing a pending divorce I find this story to heart warming. My children's American passports are in a safe controlled by the Mother in law. I work for the family company, and if I try to inforce my rights, I am sure my visa would be stricken.

After a long 10 years of marriage, and the last 5 years spent sleeping in seperate bedrooms, the wife let me know she had a boyfriend, and was "his wife" and I was no longer her husband.

This all revealed to me, after I spent 100K USD towards the purchase of a 250K USD home. She also has another 70K worth of assets (town houses/property) (not to mention the 80K boob job she got 2-3 weeks prior to the revelation of the boy friend)

If any one knew how I could get my kids back, legally, I would also be willing to pay handsomley...

Rith now the divorce date is projected on October 14th to be held at the local Amphur.

I really do not care about the money, I just want my sons.

The wife is not poor, just poor ways. So I can not offer money to her or her family, they would only laugh and act offended.

Cheers to this guy

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The full article explains things in more details and answers some questions asked here

DK

It was the moment Sean Felton had dreamt about.

Shaking, he knelt down and scooped his son up into his arms.

The lad's face split into a huge grin as he kissed his dad on the cheek and finally Sean knew his nightmare was over.

Six months earlier Jobe, three, had been taken 6,000 miles away by his Thai mother, Kim and Sean despaired of seeing his son again.

But after police failed to reunite them, he set a {cunning internet trap forex-wife Kim. He posed as a handsome young Ferrari-owning millionaire on Facebook convinced she would be unable to resist.

Sean says: "I was heartbroken when Kim took him to Thailand. I didnt want to livemy life not {knowing my son. She was {determined to evade me, so I hatched a plan I knew would reel her in.

Last week father and son returned to their four-bedroom house in Cannock, Staffs.

Sean, 43, who runs a decorating firm, met Kim while on holiday with a pal.

He says: The last thing I was looking for was love.

But he fell for Kim, 30, after she approached him in a bar and offered to show himaround.

After two weeks we were {inseparable, he says.

Sean who had been divorced for 10 years flew home a week later but could notstop thinking about her.

A month later he went back to see his beautiful Thai girlfriend and proposed after three weeks.

They wed on New Years Day 2006 in a Buddhist ceremony then came to England to start their life together.

In July 2007, Kim also known as Saowapak gave birth to Jobe.

But soon afterwards their {relationship began to founder.

Sean says: "I came home one day from work to find Jobe alone in his cot. Kim had gone out shopping with a friend. I explained mums don't do that here but she kept doing it.

"After a while she was going out at night with her friends she claimed they wereparties for Thai women only. But when I picked her up one night I saw a group of men coming out of her friends house.

"After months of sleeping in separate bedrooms I asked for a divorce.

"On March 26 this year Kim fled the country, taking Jobe with her."

Sean says: "She called me two days later laughing and said she was home."

Police and a private investigator failed to find his son. Then he had his brainwave.

He says: "I lay in bed one night imagining Jobe alone and scared, living in squalor, and it occurred to me that I might be able to find Kim on Facebook.

"After trawling through dozens of Saowapaks her face popped up. She'd changed her surname but it was her.

"I knew she wouldn't accept a friend request from me so I came up with the idea of posing as a millionaire looking for love. I set up a fake account with a picture of a man with a Ferrari and sent her a friend request. She fell for it."

With access to her profile, Sean scoured it for clues to her whereabouts. When he came across photos of Kim with a French tourist, Sean contacted him and told him what had happened.

The Frenchman confirmed that Kim and Jobe were in a hut in a remote village in Chiang Rai.

Sean went to the High Court to get legal custody of his son then flew to Thailand, where police agreed to help him search for Jobe.

He says: "My heart was pounding as we entered the village."

As police surrounded the house, Sean called out for Jobe. Kim stumbled out and pointed indoors.

Sean says: "Jobe was in the corner. I could hardly speak. I managed to say, 'Hello son', and crawl towards him with my arms out.

"He looked scared to death at first but once he realised it was me he fell into my arms and kissed my cheek.

"His teeth were chipped and they'd cut his hair. He looked like an orphan. It was so emotional to hold him in my arms again."

Sean had one final sleepless night away from Jobe before Kim and her family handed him over at the local police station.

Sean says: "Afterwards Kim and I flew to Bangkok because she wanted us to spend a week together before I took Jobe home. I was on tenterhooks. I didn't trust her. I kept thinking she'd try and take him.

"She told me she'd let him go if I paid for us all to stay in a five-star hotel. She claimed she wanted to spend time with Jobe but I think she just wanted a free holiday. I didn't let her out of my sight."

Finally, Sean flew home with his son.

He says: "I ran as fast as I could to the plane, carrying Jobe. I didn't breathe properly until we landed.

"Now he's starting to look like the boy who disappeared six months ago. Every day he looks healthier. Every moment is so precious. I've cried tears of joy ever since getting him home."

He adds: "I thought my relationship with Kim was genuine, but I was a fool."

Last night Kim denied she would leave Jobe alone in the UK and said: "Sean wouldn't get my British citizenship for me. What was I supposed to do? I don't feel bad about taking Jobe to Thailand. He is my son and I love him. I might have done wrong in the UK, but in my country I haven't.

"I agreed to let Sean take him back to the UK because I know he will look after him.

"We both love Jobe and I don't want to fight any more. I still want to see my son. I hope to come soon."

That old saying - you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl. These women are trained to manipulate-this is their profession. Some of the men deserve what they get, others are just lonely and appreciate the new found attention and are sincere about their love.

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"We both love Jobe and I don't want to fight any more. I still want to see my son. I hope to come soon."

Just 60 more farangs and she can afford to go UK and see him..,..:cheesy:

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Ok... so that's good there's one kid that wont end up in Soi Sunee Plaza :D

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Thai lady woman. Let's have a bit of equality here.

The only foreigners( those whose first language is English) who I hear refer to Thai girls/women as "Ladies' are those who have normally just arrived in Thailand and for some reason (normally frequenting girlie bars too often and taking on board the staff's view of themselves and their pseudo inflated status ) forget themselves and call Thai females 'ladies'.

Funnily, men that refer to females that they have met outside of a bar environment, more often than not, refer to young females as' girls' and those older as 'women'. More apt, I'd say.

Those that continue to call Thai females 'ladies' are usually males who like to defend 'poor hard done by working girls', in the hope that it will distance them from the rest of the males who come to take advantage of these innocents, who then, more often than not, fleece their champion.

Lady Di was a Lady and I'm sure that Thai society has their equivalents.

regards

Bojo

What utter drivel and rubbish!

Nearly ALL of the cases I use the word "lady" in, I am really saying "female person." I am not saying "female aristocrat with airs and graces, and a penchant for running through fields and fanwing over Mr. Darcy". This is purely both of your wrong assumptions that this is what other people mean.

The fact you sit there, looking down at other people with disdain, be they tourists or ex-pats - new to or familiar with Thailand, for using a common and normal word for identifying a member of the female sex, says MUCH more about you two and tells me all I'll ever need to know about you. I know nothing I say will stop you in your crusades to commandeer the English language so you can fulfill your own little silly agendas, but I'm going to try and articulate this anyway.

I consider myself resonably articulate, with a good understanding of the English language. Where I grew up in London, the female toilet is called "the ladies'", as are changing rooms, and if a friend was recounting a story to me and uses the phrase "and there was this lady there" - I would not suddenly start imagining billowing ball gowns, courtseys and pearls. What you say is purely the connotations you have attached to the word based on how you learned to use it - which by the sounds of it was circa 1850's in a Dickens novel. Words evolve. Live. With. It.

Not only that, a word like "lady" and its intended meaning by the user are made much more obvious by context. "Lady Diana attended the state banquet" being a perfect example of that for the image you are trying to promote for the word, "ladylike" being another. Now use the word in the following context - ladies perfume, ladies toilet, ladies night, hel_l even the song "Lay Lady Lay", I'm pretty sure Bob Dylan was not talking about some British aristocrat laying across his big brass bed. It's all context and what it means to the person using it and how THEY mean it and us as native English speakers should try and make ourself aware of the evolution and modern day meaning of words in our own language, so we don't end up making stupid assumptions and end up sounding like we've wandered out of George Orwell's time machine.

If you see the context that the people in this thread were using lady in, which you were so quick to criticize, you will see they mean "female person".

Americans use the words woman, girl, chick, whatever in very many varying ways to the British, but I can understand what they are saying, because of context! It's actually very easy.

Accept the fact that words can mean different things to different people. Not everyone, thankfully, has to think and talk like you do and you should stop mentally or openly criticising people for using words in ways that aren't necessarily intended in the way YOU think they are. If you'd singled me out for criticism in a bar for something like that, you would not have had a friendly response. Try doing that the next time you're in some dive and not protected by the anonimity of an online forum! I bet you don't and never will.

For you to suggest that visiting English-speaking tourists to Thailand try to distance themself from the stigmas attached to the women they associate with in bars by referring to them as "ladies" is probably one of the more ludicrous statements I've heard in a while. This is TV, I have heard a LOT.

Something tells me you watch far too much Little Britain.

Anyway, back on topic.

I completely agree with all the bribery assumptions. This has to be a case where the BiB were motivated to act purely by some financial persuasion. Even with a court-ordered writ from the UK/The Hague in your hand at the local Thai copshop, I don't imagine the BiB rushing to help you, especially as you're trying to take away a child from a Thai mother, who has not broken any law in Thailand. However, this is just an assumption and conjecture on my part, not all the exact facts are available to us and we weren't there. There's no way to know for sure, other than by speaking to the man involved in the case.

If what the article says - about the mother willing to part with her son on the proviso they can have a jolly in a 5* resort - is true, she seems like a really nasty piece of work. I have children and the unconditional love I feel for them would make me fight to the very end in a scenario such as this.

If this allegation in the article is true, I think we can safely say the boy is better off with his father.

Anyway, I'm off to take a photo of myself with a friend's Porsche to see if I can irritate some Thai golddiggers I randomly get unsolicited Skype messages from!

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