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chorizo    2

Testosterone a bit low, anyone suggest a good doctor forreplacement...patches ? Thanks for all replies.....chorizo

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I found these quotes from a couple of posts in the Health forum about testosterone in Thailand.

http://www.andriol.com/home.asp

"Andriol Testocaps is a legal over the counter synthetic testosterone sold in Thailand at Boots and Watson's etc... with no prescription."

and

"i checked 3 pharmacies today and got a price from 120 to 160 baht for 10 40 mg caps, initial dosages about 120 mg "

It's a few excerpts from this thread.

Testosterone in HGH TV discussion

I have never tried these or checked their availability but it is interesting option. Are some precautions however.

Anyone else try these?

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BillR    56

sent you a pm, my business carries several testosterone boosters from the USA.

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Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Chorizo,

Our first thoughts, on reading you thought your testosterone levels were low, was: "wow ... how lucky ... think of how many baht you'll save ... and the trouble you won't get into." :)

Disclaimer: we don't use any hormonal supplements, and never have, but since 90% of our diet is soy-milk (laced with infant powder for ages three and over for extra protein), this male human meat-package that contains us is actually probably having reduced testosterone due to (both aging and) the estrogen content of the soy. We consider that a "blessing" since, in our case, our "mental faculties:" concentration, and short- and long- term memory seem to be better (at age 1877 moons) than they were 120 to 180 moons ago. We take refuge in the "lust of imagination" :)

Several things can temporarily reduce testosterone levels in males, as well as (praise be !) having sex, including aerobic exercise, hot saunas, etc. And, obviously, recent illnesses, chronic or actue, and medications, can impact the energy of the total system. As well as stress, domestic problems, money problems, work-related stressors, etc.

From studies read several years ago we remember that weight-training can increase testosterone: but perhaps there is a lot of more recent research on this we are not familiar with, and our guess is that there are some TV CM regulars that probably really know a lot about this, and can fill you (and all of us) in on current scientific understanding.

Our own choice, if we felt we really needed more of that primate hallucinogenic kickapoo-joy-juice (present and essential in both males and females) would be to first get a thorough medical endocrine screening that would look at thyroid function, testosterone level, etc., maybe even a PSA test since increasing testosterone may increase risk of prostrate cancer for some people ... so we've read.

And we'd consider, in your case, your age, factors like whether you are over-weight, general cardio-vascular fitness, and aerobic fitness; whether you smoke, drink, do other intoxicants, etc. We'd also try to "tease out" the difference, or connection, between general malaise and lack of energy and a resuting "lack of libido," and any specific condition (like erectile dysfunction).

It would be our choice to turn to the ... uhhh ... "neo-scientific body-building community" and its glut of supplements ... which we don't doubt contains some wisdom ... only after getting a medical "all-clear."

good luck, best, ~o:37;

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BillR    56

we carry Tribulus Terrestris Extract. It increases testosterone levels in a different way, however, than similar products DHEA or andro. Instead of being a testosterone precursor, it leads to the production of the luteinizing hormone (LH). When LH levels are increased, the natural production of testosterone also increases. Now one can understand why it has been used to support healthy libido.

We also carry a product called Anabolic Meth-X

This super anabolic complex has:

  • 5-Methyl 7-Methoxyisoflavone
  • N-Acetyl-Cysteine
  • Guggulsterone
  • Tribulus
  • ZMA
  • LPC

Methoxyisoflavone<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Promote more lean mass, increase strength, recovery times, bone mass, and induce a greater state of vitality with this powerful flavone.* All the while without worries of androgenic side-effects. In a nutshell, methoxyisoflavone is a non-hormonal anabolic / anti-catabolic compound.* This powerful flavone has been suggested to support protein synthesis and improve overall recovery from exercise.* Wow!

N-Acetyl-Cysteine<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">NAC supplementation has been surmised to increase lean body mass and act exhibit antioxidant properties, especially in conjunction with exercise.* Tissue damage and a weakened immune system have been found to be the result of intense exercise. NAC works to support normal immune function due to its ability to scavenge free radicals.* It also supports higher levels of in the bloodstream, which has been suggested to help repair damaged tissue.*

Guggulsterones<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Guggulsterones by themselves have been shown to work very well for fat loss Guggulsterones have been shown in studies to affect many biological processes including thyroid metabolism and dermal (skin) function.*

Tribulus<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">It´s for anyone who wants to support increased muscle growth.* Tribulus terrestris is a testosterone promoter.*

ZMA<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Don´t get me started! There is a large body of scientific evidence supportive of ZMA. Zinc and Magnesium are commonly depleted from your body. Studies have suggested that supplementing with 30mg of Zinc and 450mg of Magnesium per day may help elevate testosterone levels!*

LPC<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Lysophosphatidylcholine causes an expansion of the cells in the stomach and intestine walls which has been suggested to support nutrient absorption into the bloodstream.* Perfect!

We also have DHEA

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Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Chorizo,

Our first thoughts, on reading you thought your testosterone levels were low, was: "wow ... how lucky ... think of how many baht you'll save ... and the trouble you won't get into." :)

Disclaimer: we don't use any hormonal supplements, and never have, but since 90% of our diet is soy-milk (laced with infant powder for ages three and over for extra protein), this male human meat-package that contains us is actually probably having reduced testosterone due to (both aging and) the estrogen content of the soy. We consider that a "blessing" since, in our case, our "mental faculties:" concentration, and short- and long- term memory seem to be better (at age 1877 moons) than they were 120 to 180 moons ago. We take refuge in the "lust of imagination" :)

Several things can temporarily reduce testosterone levels in males, as well as (praise be !) having sex, including aerobic exercise, hot saunas, etc. And, obviously, recent illnesses, chronic or actue, and medications, can impact the energy of the total system. As well as stress, domestic problems, money problems, work-related stressors, etc.

From studies read several years ago we remember that weight-training can increase testosterone: but perhaps there is a lot of more recent research on this we are not familiar with, and our guess is that there are some TV CM regulars that probably really know a lot about this, and can fill you (and all of us) in on current scientific understanding.

Our own choice, if we felt we really needed more of that primate hallucinogenic kickapoo-joy-juice (present and essential in both males and females) would be to first get a thorough medical endocrine screening that would look at thyroid function, testosterone level, etc., maybe even a PSA test since increasing testosterone may increase risk of prostrate cancer for some people ... so we've read.

And we'd consider, in your case, your age, factors like whether you are over-weight, general cardio-vascular fitness, and aerobic fitness; whether you smoke, drink, do other intoxicants, etc. We'd also try to "tease out" the difference, or connection, between general malaise and lack of energy and a resuting "lack of libido," and any specific condition (like erectile dysfunction).

It would be our choice to turn to the ... uhhh ... "neo-scientific body-building community" and its glut of supplements ... which we don't doubt contains some wisdom ... only after getting a medical "all-clear."

good luck, best, ~o:37;

Orang

Testosterone levels are implicated in far more than sex drive. The hormone is critical for bone mass, muscle recovery, skin, hair nails repair and importantly deep restorative sleep. When folks have low testosterone levels they frequently have sleep issues.

Loading up on all that soy might be a factor in your past insomniac periods.

Might want to get your levels checked.

As a male ages then the Testosterone levels decrease and can be compensated by increasing intense exercise, eating animal proteins, decreasing estrogen raising foods like soy and licorice, and taking supplements or even hormone replacements.

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JAS21    1,391

I know a tiny bit about this...so did you get measured Total Testosterone, Albumin and SHBG. From these you can calculate...just google for the formula...the Free and Bio available Testosterone. Total testo. on its own is not the full picture even though a Dr may have told you it is.

As someone said it drops with age and boosting it in later life can give you quite a pick up. Have a look at Lawley Pharmaceuticals in Australia, a lot of information there and they will send you a CD if you ask . No problem having the cream sent to Thailand..well we have never paid any duty.

However one should have the 'digital finger exam' etc medical before commencing treatment.

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Testosterone levels are implicated in far more than sex drive. The hormone is critical for bone mass, muscle recovery, skin, hair nails repair and importantly deep restorative sleep. When folks have low testosterone levels they frequently have sleep issues.

Loading up on all that soy might be a factor in your past insomniac periods.

Might want to get your levels checked.

As a male ages then the Testosterone levels decrease and can be compensated by increasing intense exercise, eating animal proteins, decreasing estrogen raising foods like soy and licorice, and taking supplements or even hormone replacements.

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun CobraSnakeNecktie,

Really appreciate your advice, and the spirit of concern in which it's given ! Believe the body had its T level checked a year ago, and Dr. Tawatchai said it was in "low normal" for a human male container of its age, but wouldn't hurt to get it checked again. And the "test done" certainly did not include the other tests mentioned on this thread by Khun John45 (albumin and SHBG).

Have the impression that people in general, as they age, do tend to have sleep problems, and need less sleep; we are not familiar with a linkage of that to testosterone, or hormonal balance in general, but will certainly look into that.

thanks !

best, ~o:37;

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Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Chorizo,

Our first thoughts, on reading you thought your testosterone levels were low, was: "wow ... how lucky ... think of how many baht you'll save ... and the trouble you won't get into." :)

Disclaimer: we don't use any hormonal supplements, and never have, but since 90% of our diet is soy-milk (laced with infant powder for ages three and over for extra protein), this male human meat-package that contains us is actually probably having reduced testosterone due to (both aging and) the estrogen content of the soy. We consider that a "blessing" since, in our case, our "mental faculties:" concentration, and short- and long- term memory seem to be better (at age 1877 moons) than they were 120 to 180 moons ago. We take refuge in the "lust of imagination" :)

Several things can temporarily reduce testosterone levels in males, as well as (praise be !) having sex, including aerobic exercise, hot saunas, etc. And, obviously, recent illnesses, chronic or actue, and medications, can impact the energy of the total system. As well as stress, domestic problems, money problems, work-related stressors, etc.

From studies read several years ago we remember that weight-training can increase testosterone: but perhaps there is a lot of more recent research on this we are not familiar with, and our guess is that there are some TV CM regulars that probably really know a lot about this, and can fill you (and all of us) in on current scientific understanding.

Our own choice, if we felt we really needed more of that primate hallucinogenic kickapoo-joy-juice (present and essential in both males and females) would be to first get a thorough medical endocrine screening that would look at thyroid function, testosterone level, etc., maybe even a PSA test since increasing testosterone may increase risk of prostrate cancer for some people ... so we've read.

And we'd consider, in your case, your age, factors like whether you are over-weight, general cardio-vascular fitness, and aerobic fitness; whether you smoke, drink, do other intoxicants, etc. We'd also try to "tease out" the difference, or connection, between general malaise and lack of energy and a resuting "lack of libido," and any specific condition (like erectile dysfunction).

It would be our choice to turn to the ... uhhh ... "neo-scientific body-building community" and its glut of supplements ... which we don't doubt contains some wisdom ... only after getting a medical "all-clear."

good luck, best, ~o:37;

Orang

Testosterone levels are implicated in far more than sex drive. The hormone is critical for bone mass, muscle recovery, skin, hair nails repair and importantly deep restorative sleep. When folks have low testosterone levels they frequently have sleep issues.

Loading up on all that soy might be a factor in your past insomniac periods.

Might want to get your levels checked.

As a male ages then the Testosterone levels decrease and can be compensated by increasing intense exercise, eating animal proteins, decreasing estrogen raising foods like soy and licorice, and taking supplements or even hormone replacements.

OK decreasing licorice is going to far. take it back:(

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jayinoz    4

Sustanon will give you all the testo you need... not expensive. It avail. in many places around CMai. Bulk orders best.

As it is legal in Thai- HGHs give a good boost- check out Jintropin. Aging Celebrities live on it. ;)

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we carry Tribulus Terrestris Extract. It increases testosterone levels in a different way, however, than similar products DHEA or andro. Instead of being a testosterone precursor, it leads to the production of the luteinizing hormone (LH). When LH levels are increased, the natural production of testosterone also increases. Now one can understand why it has been used to support healthy libido.

We also carry a product called Anabolic Meth-X

This super anabolic complex has:

  • 5-Methyl 7-Methoxyisoflavone
  • N-Acetyl-Cysteine
  • Guggulsterone
  • Tribulus
  • ZMA
  • LPC

Methoxyisoflavone<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Promote more lean mass, increase strength, recovery times, bone mass, and induce a greater state of vitality with this powerful flavone.* All the while without worries of androgenic side-effects. In a nutshell, methoxyisoflavone is a non-hormonal anabolic / anti-catabolic compound.* This powerful flavone has been suggested to support protein synthesis and improve overall recovery from exercise.* Wow!

N-Acetyl-Cysteine<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">NAC supplementation has been surmised to increase lean body mass and act exhibit antioxidant properties, especially in conjunction with exercise.* Tissue damage and a weakened immune system have been found to be the result of intense exercise. NAC works to support normal immune function due to its ability to scavenge free radicals.* It also supports higher levels of in the bloodstream, which has been suggested to help repair damaged tissue.*

Guggulsterones<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Guggulsterones by themselves have been shown to work very well for fat loss Guggulsterones have been shown in studies to affect many biological processes including thyroid metabolism and dermal (skin) function.*

Tribulus<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">It´s for anyone who wants to support increased muscle growth.* Tribulus terrestris is a testosterone promoter.*

ZMA<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Don´t get me started! There is a large body of scientific evidence supportive of ZMA. Zinc and Magnesium are commonly depleted from your body. Studies have suggested that supplementing with 30mg of Zinc and 450mg of Magnesium per day may help elevate testosterone levels!*

LPC<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Lysophosphatidylcholine causes an expansion of the cells in the stomach and intestine walls which has been suggested to support nutrient absorption into the bloodstream.* Perfect!

We also have DHEA

Wow! "Studies have suggested...", "may help", "has been suggested", "testosterone promoter", etc. Sounds impressive without really saying anything. Can you definitely say "Taking 'X' will safely lead to a meaningful increase in testosterone." and can you direct us to credible scientific studies to support that statement?

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jayinoz    4

we carry Tribulus Terrestris Extract. It increases testosterone levels in a different way, however, than similar products DHEA or andro. Instead of being a testosterone precursor, it leads to the production of the luteinizing hormone (LH). When LH levels are increased, the natural production of testosterone also increases. Now one can understand why it has been used to support healthy libido.

We also carry a product called Anabolic Meth-X

This super anabolic complex has:

  • 5-Methyl 7-Methoxyisoflavone
  • N-Acetyl-Cysteine
  • Guggulsterone
  • Tribulus
  • ZMA
  • LPC

Methoxyisoflavone<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Promote more lean mass, increase strength, recovery times, bone mass, and induce a greater state of vitality with this powerful flavone.* All the while without worries of androgenic side-effects. In a nutshell, methoxyisoflavone is a non-hormonal anabolic / anti-catabolic compound.* This powerful flavone has been suggested to support protein synthesis and improve overall recovery from exercise.* Wow!

N-Acetyl-Cysteine<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">NAC supplementation has been surmised to increase lean body mass and act exhibit antioxidant properties, especially in conjunction with exercise.* Tissue damage and a weakened immune system have been found to be the result of intense exercise. NAC works to support normal immune function due to its ability to scavenge free radicals.* It also supports higher levels of in the bloodstream, which has been suggested to help repair damaged tissue.*

Guggulsterones<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Guggulsterones by themselves have been shown to work very well for fat loss Guggulsterones have been shown in studies to affect many biological processes including thyroid metabolism and dermal (skin) function.*

Tribulus<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">It´s for anyone who wants to support increased muscle growth.* Tribulus terrestris is a testosterone promoter.*

ZMA<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Don´t get me started! There is a large body of scientific evidence supportive of ZMA. Zinc and Magnesium are commonly depleted from your body. Studies have suggested that supplementing with 30mg of Zinc and 450mg of Magnesium per day may help elevate testosterone levels!*

LPC<br style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Lysophosphatidylcholine causes an expansion of the cells in the stomach and intestine walls which has been suggested to support nutrient absorption into the bloodstream.* Perfect!

We also have DHEA

Wow! "Studies have suggested...", "may help", "has been suggested", "testosterone promoter", etc. Sounds impressive without really saying anything. Can you definitely say "Taking 'X' will safely lead to a meaningful increase in testosterone." and can you direct us to credible scientific studies to support that statement?

Yes I never buy into that may do- can do crap also. Not into patches, creams, etc. Ingest it or inject it is the only way to go. Less harmful for liver to inject. Fact is simply buy Testo like Sustanon and take as directed for an immediate boost to your testo (Ingest it) CHEAP approx $40pm. HGH the Sly S fountain of youth and other aging celebrites is Jintropin (Inject it)- stick with name brands, not fake stuff- Yet expensive approx.$300-$400pm.

Chok dee

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chorizo    2

Thanks for all the replies..alot to look at.......I had just come back from USA and had my blood work done at local VA Hospital. Doctor suggesting patches(which they may supply..not sure yet) Or injections (to be done in Thailand)....Doc said both will work...he did at one time , mention cremes....btw..psa is very good......as is my health....except for this.....

If i can get it done with patches, that is the way i want to go...to my original post..where to buy in Chiangmai?

I appreciate all information sent.........none said how many treatments and would i quit them after i got to correct level? Or is this a on going thing...

Thanks again...Chorizo

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jayinoz    4

Thanks for all the replies..alot to look at.......I had just come back from USA and had my blood work done at local VA Hospital. Doctor suggesting patches(which they may supply..not sure yet) Or injections (to be done in Thailand)....Doc said both will work...he did at one time , mention cremes....btw..psa is very good......as is my health....except for this.....

If i can get it done with patches, that is the way i want to go...to my original post..where to buy in Chiangmai?

I appreciate all information sent.........none said how many treatments and would i quit them after i got to correct level? Or is this a on going thing...

Thanks again...Chorizo

Watch out CMAI girls when u upped ur Testo level- don't overdo do it now- Lol.

Most of the Pharmacies around Thapae Gate supply various Testo enhancers- opp. Thapae Gate, inner moat. They used to our various requests for items most never have or Thais do not request- pain killers, hair gain stuff, beta blockers, testo- u name it. ;) Thus in middle of Tourist area to cater to us... Chok dee

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