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Lakegeneve    632

AS I understand it the railway is elevated all along Rattanatibet and all the way to the now under construction rather large depot past Big King (almost opposite the soi where Nonthaburi immigration is located).

The deep excavations I've seen I imagine related to both pilings for the support pillars and stations, and several elevated U-turns that are being built.

Here is a render of what the depot will look like; http://www.pe.eng.ku.../fixbangpai.jpg

I posted the link earlier in this thread for the Skyscrapercity thread for the Purple Line construction so that people (like ignis) can follow the progress of construction. Lots of pics and updated info there.

Questions I have are about the "pink line" which I've heard will connect Khai Rai and Pakkred, a really short distance, which real estate developers are using both the pink and purple lines to promote various projects. And I've also heard about a proposed Pakkred-Minburi line which was supposed to serve the Government complex in Chaengwattana. Is there any confirmation or otherwise of this?

I assume you are mentioning Khai Rai due to the BP article last week which said it would go from Khae Rai to Pakred....... poorly edited.

The Pink Line will run from Minburi to Pakred (with the extension to connect to the Purple Line at Tiwanon & Rattanatibet junction hence the Khae Rai added in to replace the previously proposed Brown Line).

It will be 34km long running along Chaeng Wattana and Ram Inthra with 24 stations. It will link 4 lines (SRT Rangsit SRT Red, BTS Light Green line, the MRTA Yellow Line & the Purple). It is an important EW transport corridor in the north and has the potential to alleviate some of the traffic on this busy route. Here is a map;

pink2009.jpg

It was planned to be built later but in the belated realisation of the importance of having transport links for the new Government Complex at Chaeng Wattana the timeline has been brought forward with an attempt to tender the line later this year.

However, there is a big problem. The line was originally planned to be a heavy rail metro but it was changed to a mono-rail 2 yrs ago due to lobbying by a couple of mono-rail manufacturers (esp from the country just south of Thailand). This will be very silly and shortsighted as a monorail cannot handle heavy pax loads and this is a high growth corridor with many new housing projects. If they do build it I am foreseeing many technical problems and breakdowns. It is also silly from a network point of view all other MRTA lines will be heavy rail which means rolling stock can be used on all lines if need be and allows for future network expansion and changes.

Here are a couple of silly renders;

http://img709.images...19/51491610.jpg & http://img709.images...19/51491610.jpg

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ignis    1,076

Update today.. yes there building the Pillars now + there going back over what they had worked on before... Trucks unloading barriers all the way into the centre, thought they had finished all the work on this section last year..

TIT but would have thought they would have done the pillars while they had the fast lane both side closed most of last year..

Still goud thing the road is back open again past the 'Wat' [past Immigration Office] so can do the back roads behind Bang Yai crossing all the main roads cross country and miss it all.

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7by7    6,398

We have a house in Bangsue, and my wife is currently staying there for family reasons.

She tells me that there is a lot of concern among our neighbours due to rumours flying around that the government is going to buy all their homes to build a station.

The map provided by Lakegeneve above appears to show that the Purple Line either terminates or turns right toward Bangsue Junction; and the construction work I saw when there last August would seem confirm this, with a station being built adjacent to the Tesco Lotus.

However, the map also shows a purple MRT extension, which appears to go right through the area where our house is!

I've been unable to find any up to date info on this. Can anyone direct me to where I can find some?

My wife is really worried about this; we have only owned the house for a year, but it is the first house either of us have ever owned and we planned to end our days there. It would be a large emotional blow were we to lose it.

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Rinrada    149

This is my summary of all the lines and extensions of all metro lines to be completed by 2029 (realistically when your grandchildren are retiring). However, this will change again and again especially if or when we have a change of government next year.

A) Current lines under construction;

1) BTS ext On Nut to Soi Baering (open 12 Aug 2011)

2) SRT Red Line from Bang Sue to Taling Chan (est open early to mid 2012)

3) MRTA Purple Line from Taopoon to Bang Yai (open early 2014)

B ) Lines tendered and contacts signed

4) MRT subway Blue Line ring ext and Bang Khae ext (construction to start end of 2010, opening 2016)

Note: last week the National Assembly and NCCC are reviewing these tenders due to allegation of curruption and collussion during the tendering process which may lead to retender of the 5 contracts.

C) Lines currently under tender

5) SRT Red Line from Bang Sue to Rangsit

5a) New Intercity terminal at Bang Sue for all N, NE & S intercity trains,

D) Lines reportedly close to tender;

6) MRT Subway Blue Line ext from Bang Sue to Taopoon (1 station),

7) BTS ext from Wong Wian Yai to Phetkasem road (viaduct built years ago and only needs tender for 4 stations. BMA gov said in Feb it would be done by end of 2011 but tender may be done by end of the year with a completion deadline for end of 2012)

E) Lines which have disappeared into a Thai policy vortex of confusion;

8 ) BTS Mo Chit to Saphan Mai ext (expected to be tendered next year but that has been said for the last 5 yrs. Original completion date was 2008),

F) Next batch of lines & exts:

9) BTS ext from Soi Baering to Samut Prakhan,

10) Orange Line,

11) Pink Line (mono-rail!!!)

12) Yellow Line

G) Thereafter:

13) Purple Line ext south,

14) Red Line from Bang Sue to Hualumphong to Mahachai

15) Airport Line from Phayathai to Bangsue to Don Meung (DMK)

16) BTS ext from Saphan Mai to Lam Lukka

17) Line 11 and line 12????

Updated info on all of these lines (and other mass transit projects) can be found on Skyscrapercity (SSC) in Thai, http://www.skyscrape...=367&order=desc

or 2Bangkok in english, http://www.angkor.co...forum/index.php.

1) BTS ext On Nut to Soi Baering (open 12 Aug 2011) ...GOOD News and about time :partytime2:

F) Next batch of lines & exts:

9) BTS ext from Soi Baering to Samut Prakhan...Got any Dates...?? :o

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whybother    8,255

We have a house in Bangsue, and my wife is currently staying there for family reasons.

She tells me that there is a lot of concern among our neighbours due to rumours flying around that the government is going to buy all their homes to build a station.

The map provided by Lakegeneve above appears to show that the Purple Line either terminates or turns right toward Bangsue Junction; and the construction work I saw when there last August would seem confirm this, with a station being built adjacent to the Tesco Lotus.

However, the map also shows a purple MRT extension, which appears to go right through the area where our house is!

I've been unable to find any up to date info on this. Can anyone direct me to where I can find some?

My wife is really worried about this; we have only owned the house for a year, but it is the first house either of us have ever owned and we planned to end our days there. It would be a large emotional blow were we to lose it.

There is talk of Hua Lamphong station effectively being moved out to Bang Sue. A new station would be built that would also include the high speed trains from China.

I would have thought that it would be built on existing railway land though. How close are you to the railway?

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powderpuff    6

9) BTS ext from Soi Baering to Samut Prakhan...Got any Dates...?? :o

Past Imperial Samrong? My guess? Never.

We need a line over SriNakarin Road & one over Lard Prao.

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Lakegeneve    632

9) BTS ext from Soi Baering to Samut Prakhan...Got any Dates...?? :o

Past Imperial Samrong? My guess? Never.

We need a line over SriNakarin Road & one over Lard Prao.

Still no clear timeframe on the Soi Bearing to Samut Prakhan section but designs have been completed, environmental impact study is being done and the Transport Ministry wants to tender it this year. I suspect sometime next year there may be a start in construction.

For your wanted line along Srinakarin and Lat Phrao rds you already have one planned ....the Yellow Line. Check the Master Plan map I posted.

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Lakegeneve    632

There is talk of Hua Lamphong station effectively being moved out to Bang Sue. A new station would be built that would also include the high speed trains from China.

It is not talk as pre-tenders for the new Bang Sue Terminal went out late last year. Renders have been around for the last 2 years. This was planned prior to the plans for new HSR lines coming out.

However, there has been a delay in the tender which will not happen to mid year (along with the SRT Red Line to Rangsit).

All N, NE and South trains will depart from the new Bang Sue Terminal and all East line trains from the new Makkasan terminal.

It would make more long term sense when the new Southern HSR line is built to still keep south trains departing from a revamped Hua Lamphong station and run them more direct via Mahachai & Samut Songkram and a new line but that is another issue.

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Lakegeneve    632

We have a house in Bangsue, and my wife is currently staying there for family reasons.

She tells me that there is a lot of concern among our neighbours due to rumours flying around that the government is going to buy all their homes to build a station.

The map provided by Lakegeneve above appears to show that the Purple Line either terminates or turns right toward Bangsue Junction; and the construction work I saw when there last August would seem confirm this, with a station being built adjacent to the Tesco Lotus.

However, the map also shows a purple MRT extension, which appears to go right through the area where our house is!

I've been unable to find any up to date info on this. Can anyone direct me to where I can find some?

My wife is really worried about this; we have only owned the house for a year, but it is the first house either of us have ever owned and we planned to end our days there. It would be a large emotional blow were we to lose it.

THe Purple line DOES NOT run through Bang Sue. It runs through Taopoon which is about 1 km west (the Blue Line will be extended west 1.2km to connect before being extended further).

The section of the Purple Line south of Taopoon will intially be elevated then run underground. Originally this was going to be the first section of the line built being the most important however politicians, specifically the BJT members, property coompany interests wanted to push the NW section first to open up new housing projects along the corridor.

The only lines in the area are the SRT Red (Taling Chan ) which is already under construction and on SRT land, the Blue Line extension and the Pruple line. Plans for all lines in your area have been around for years with exact routes and stations (eg. the Blue Line ext should have been completed in 2009) so why not just attend your local District office to obtain the information you require if you are unsure? Alternatively, you can contact the MRTA which is the responsible authority for both the Purple and Blue lines.

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As a small aside, take a look at this site: ivycondo.com and have a look at their map on the near complete Ivy Residences, Pinklao. On there you will see a couple of MRT stations that featured in the sales pitch.

Do you think they are being a little optimistic?

Alan

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7by7    6,398

THe Purple line DOES NOT run through Bang Sue. It runs through Taopoon which is about 1 km west

Forgive my ignorance, but as it is coloured purple on the map you provided earlier, I assumed it was the purple line. Something is running through Bangsue, I've seen it being built!

Plans for all lines in your area have been around for years with exact routes and stations (eg. the Blue Line ext should have been completed in 2009) so why not just attend your local District office to obtain the information you require if you are unsure?

We have, or rather one of our neighbours has. The response? "No final decision has been made yet, and until the final decision has been made, plans are not available to the public!"

Like your map, the one on the MRTA website shows the line coming down Thanon Krungthep-Nonthaburi and then continuing; very close to our home off Soi Pradu. Unfortunately, neither map is detailed enough to say for sure. nor do they show the location of any stations.

I've attached that map as a pdf file.

I've advised my wife to try and contact MRTA and see if they are any more forthcoming than the Ampur.

Incidentally, work on improving the surface water drainage in the area was due to start in February 2010; we've now been told that this work has been indefinitely postponed. Coincidence?

MRTAnetworkEng.pdf

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Lakegeneve    632

THe Purple line DOES NOT run through Bang Sue. It runs through Taopoon which is about 1 km west

Forgive my ignorance, but as it is coloured purple on the map you provided earlier, I assumed it was the purple line. Something is running through Bangsue, I've seen it being built!

The only lines in the area are the SRT Red (Taling Chan ) which is already under construction and on SRT land,

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Lakegeneve    632

THe Purple line DOES NOT run through Bang Sue. It runs through Taopoon which is about 1 km west

Forgive my ignorance, but as it is coloured purple on the map you provided earlier, I assumed it was the purple line. Something is running through Bangsue, I've seen it being built!

Plans for all lines in your area have been around for years with exact routes and stations (eg. the Blue Line ext should have been completed in 2009) so why not just attend your local District office to obtain the information you require if you are unsure?

We have, or rather one of our neighbours has. The response? "No final decision has been made yet, and until the final decision has been made, plans are not available to the public!"

Like your map, the one on the MRTA website shows the line coming down Thanon Krungthep-Nonthaburi and then continuing; very close to our home off Soi Pradu. Unfortunately, neither map is detailed enough to say for sure. nor do they show the location of any stations.

To my understanding when the section south of Taopoon is built the next station will be at Samsen & Thahan rd junction. It will then run underground along Samsen (though the MRTA will probably change that to elevated to save costs and then start underground further a few kms further south).

You can draw a straight line on a map from Samsen to Taopoon at the end of Pracharat rd allowing some curvature of the alignment at Taopoon end and that will be your approx route. I imagine it to pass over Soi Pradu just north of the right angle turn.

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