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How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

For the same reason the pound didn't plunge when the hoodies ran the streets of British cities for a week or so; as far as the markets are concerned, it's a temporary situation. Besides, a shut down for a week or two is hardly justification for the currency of any debt-ridden country to rally against that of an emerging market that actually produces and exports stuff.

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May be you never been under flooding.... I was and 50 cm and 1 meter are very very different......Under 1 meter all electrycity can give problem.... till 50 usually not problem of this kind...But hope you never have to experienced....

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Military wants PM to declare state of emergency in capital

The Nation

The move came after angry residents, particularly in Pathum Thani, which is immediately upriver from Bangkok, destroyed walls of sandbags built to protect important areas.

Seriously, what's the military going to do with a state of emergency: use snipers to murder any residents who try to destroy embankments?

I don't know and I really hope not, but anyone who destroys the walls to increase the flood on purpose, should be pointed as an enemy of the state! <_<

Amazing humanity... :blink:

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I do wonder why the army isn't just helping, but i think they are not allowed.

I don't know how broad the military's involvement is.... but they're clearly already involved..... How much good they're doing, that's another question.

It was the Army that was in charge of the efforts to keep the flood waters out of a couple of high profile Ayutthaya industrial estates...which ultimately failed...

And I believe they're responsible for some of the supposed canal dredging that's supposed to be going on...as well as some helicopter relief work and supply ferrying...

Whether they have the ability/orders to protect flood dykes from being dismantled by civilians, that's a question I haven't seen asked or answered.

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Soldiers are 'on the payroll'....get them to do anything that is needed....guarding, filling up sandbags, etc...

Simple solution to 'sandbag shortage':

get some heavy machinery to ANY vacant land

dig big holes

you have sand

you have holes to fill with water

Is anything wrong with this idea? I would think in such an emergency, the army, especially should be working around the clock, example, digging holes like there is no tomorrow, filling sand bags and creating holes/trenches to redirect some of the flood water into....

This is out of control, obviously...and no one in charge is doing anything effective or anything that would involve structured, accountable expenditure

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I don't know and I really hope not, but anyone who destroys the walls to increase the flood on purpose, should be pointed as an enemy of the state! <_<

Amazing humanity... :blink:

There's a big dilemma - when your community is under 1 meter or more of water while the community next door is dry because of flood barriers, it leads to tensions and some justifiable concerns. This is clearly illustrated on Highway 345 in Pathum Thani where two communities are at a standoff and local officials have been unable to resolve the issue.

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Is there a thread where Bangkokians can tell us about areas actually underwater. Many reports about communities underwater but then other reports contradicting it. Has Bangkok avoided a bullet or are we still at risk?

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As usual, the useless Nation article doesn't give any explanation of HOW declaring a state of emergency would help improve the flood protection efforts for BKK...

What exactly would such a declaration allow the Army to do that they can't already do now? They pretty much do what they want, when they want, all the time already....

Funny though.... someone else asked this question here the other day and I never saw any answer... Where are the BIB through all this???

They do seem to have been pretty conspicuously quiet and absent... Busy rushing to relocate all the casinos to upper floors???

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May be you never been under flooding.... I was and 50 cm and 1 meter are very very different......Under 1 meter all electrycity can give problem.... till 50 usually not problem of this kind...But hope you never have to experienced....

Exactly my thoughts 50cm is knee deep at that depth most homes and cars can be saved. But 1mtr is waste deep at this depth most single story suffering very serious damage and many vehicles destroyed.

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I don't know and I really hope not, but anyone who destroys the walls to increase the flood on purpose, should be pointed as an enemy of the state! <_<

Amazing humanity... :blink:

There's a big dilemma - when your community is under 1 meter or more of water while the community next door is dry because of flood barriers, it leads to tensions and some justifiable concerns. This is clearly illustrated on Highway 345 in Pathum Thani where two communities are at a standoff and local officials have been unable to resolve the issue.

Got any news about that situation and the stand off im curious. ALso because its close to here and could lead to more flooding over here in Bang Yai(nonthaburi)

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I don't know and I really hope not, but anyone who destroys the walls to increase the flood on purpose, should be pointed as an enemy of the state! <_<

Amazing humanity... :blink:

Sandbag walls which protect important areas channel the floods and retain the floods in areas which are less important - to influential people, at least. I am sure the people that live in "less important" areas are not happy about their homes being used as emergency reservoirs...

The phrase "enemy of the state" sounds so 1984; do you mean an enemy of the state like George Washington was?

SC

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I do wonder why the army isn't just helping, but i think they are not allowed.

I don't know how broad the military's involvement is.... but they're clearly already involved..... How much good they're doing, that's another question.

It was the Army that was in charge of the efforts to keep the flood waters out of a couple of high profile Ayutthaya industrial estates...which ultimately failed...

And I believe they're responsible for some of the supposed canal dredging that's supposed to be going on...as well as some helicopter relief work and supply ferrying...

Whether they have the ability/orders to protect flood dykes from being dismantled by civilians, that's a question I haven't seen asked or answered.

This issue is discussed in a Bangkok Post article published earlier today. Not allowed to link it to this forum :rolleyes:

The Military could do more if the government would declare a state of emergency.

The government has known about the impending floods for MONTHS but only ordered the dredging of Bangkok canals yesterday.

Ironic isn't it that during the last campaign Thaksin’s party criticized the Democrats for their tardy response to flooding. This year the shoe is on the other foot, with Thaksin's clone Yingluck facing criticism that her government failed to act fast enough to the flood crisis.

Shocking incompetence!

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So 3 different opinions it seems, pm says bkk will be safe, govenor not so sure and now the military calling for emergency measures.

Glad to see we are all on the same page.

In other news, tide is coming back in and river is rising as expected-looks similar to yesterday.

Welcome to the land of miracle smiles.

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I do wonder why the army isn't just helping, but i think they are not allowed.

I don't know how broad the military's involvement is.... but they're clearly already involved..... How much good they're doing, that's another question.

It was the Army that was in charge of the efforts to keep the flood waters out of a couple of high profile Ayutthaya industrial estates...which ultimately failed...

And I believe they're responsible for some of the supposed canal dredging that's supposed to be going on...as well as some helicopter relief work and supply ferrying...

Whether they have the ability/orders to protect flood dykes from being dismantled by civilians, that's a question I haven't seen asked or answered.

This issue is discussed in a Bangkok Post article published earlier today. Not allowed to link it to this forum :rolleyes:

The Military could do more if the government would declare a state of emergency.

The government has known about the impending floods for MONTHS but only ordered the dredging of Bangkok canals yesterday.

Ironic isn't it that during the last campaign Thaksin's party criticized the Democrats for their tardy response to flooding. This year the shoe is on the other foot, with Thaksin's clone Yingluck facing criticism that her government failed to act fast enough to the flood crisis.

Shocking incompetence!

If it aint't broke don't fix it. This statement goes for all infrastructure in all areas of Thailand. Pattaya would not have been so bad, IF THE DRAINS HAD BEEN CLEANED OUT! IN Thailand foresight is doing nothing until something happens or you need it.

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