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1.2 Million Thais Are Addicted To Drugs

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PEP    30

A couple of our Village lads were sent from Court to a 2X 2 week rehabilitation course in 'the bush" for failing urine testing (first offence). As i was told the "Rehabilitation" was daily lectures on the evils of drugs to effect terror of gaol if further offence detected,, exorecising by Monks to purge thier souls and a daily emetic to purge the vile subatance from thier bodies. Would probably work for me. They were indeed a sorry state when I, who had transport, was elected to collect and bring them home.

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Gers1873    56

I have personally seen drug use in Holland and used myself (xtc) and most of us were casual users with a normal life and work next to it. Some people however can't handle it. But many can. Must be a factor like meom is talking about.

Just like you get people who get addicted to alcohol

Yes the Dutch seem to be able to handle their drug use pretty well.

Drugs and music often go hand in hand which might explain why some of the best club dj’s / music producers are coming from Holland as well. Armin van Buuren, Sander van Doorn, Tiesto, Laidback Luke, Ferry Corsten, Dash Berlin, Don Diablo, DJ Chuckie, Afrojack etc. to name a few.

Not sure if there is a genetic link thoughintheclub.gif

Excellent!! Bragging and sycophancy about how well some people, a particular country's nationals, can 'handle' their drugs.. Nice one lads!! . - How many E's can you knock back?

It's not about genetic links it's about how you count the statistics according to Idiot O'reilly on Fux News

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fire and ice    79

interested to know just what their definition of an 'addict' is, there's a big difference between someone who occasionally smokes dope, or yaba and can still get on with life, and someone who has to have it every day to the point that they cannot undertake their job or studies correctly. I'm guessing the latter is a 10th of the figure quoted. 90% of the world's drug problems are media-hype to scare the middle class into voting

Not to scare the middle class into voting, but to sell newspapers and TV ratings of their news. As a CONSEQUENCE a lot of people (in any country) vote based on their feelings which have been influenced by the media hype. Whist its true media sometimes has a sinister political bias (as opposed to merely the reported/writer's own bias), in general a LOT more reporting is done with that media's business interests in mind. Your assertion tend to imply that the media is behind large conspiracies. Of course it may be so in certain cases, but their primary function is looking after their own business.

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wolf5370    1,629

The old legalise/don't legalise argument is unwinnable simply because the two sides will never agree. The simple fact is that while it is illegal certain people will think its cool and crave it (the young). As we saw in the USA with the alcohol prohibition act in the 20's and 30's, all it does is make bad people wealthy and feeds organised crime. What is needed is education for the young and help for the addicted. It seems, probably for the first time, the government here is taking an interest at this level, rather than just signing a shoot dealers on site edict! I applaude that. Drugs will never be removed from society and drug addicts will never cease to exist as alcoholics did not - there is certainly a predisposition to addiction, many studies prove this. I doubt it is a genetic one per se, in that it affects all Thais, much more likely to be individuals being more susseptible than others (as with tendancy to contract cancer etc).

I hope they look at gambling, it seems a much more insidious and pervasive here to me. So many Thais I know, or family members of Thais I know, have serious gambling problems - have lost everything, owe fortunes to loan sharks which they juggle and hide from, lend them a 1,000 baht to get one off their back for a while and it never gets past the lottery stand or basck-street casino. It is this sort of pressure which pushes people into bad choices like drugs and taking large illegal risks muling the stuff. Of course, we all know why these places are allowed to continue unmolested by the authorities and why legal casinos will probably never open here, but there is always hope. At least a gambler anonymous and treatment facilities (often largely subsidised by legal casinos in the west!) and educating the young would help - at least teach them enough maths so that the caluclator can stay in the draw and so they can see when the odds are firmly stacked against them!

I went to a birthday party of some Thia friend's last year. Help in their garden. A neighbour from down the street turned up with a sheet of paper and a bag of small envelopes. On the paper were the 12 Chinese astrological creatures. Each person bet on one or more of the creatures by putting their money on the square that framed each. Many people bet on the same animal, some animals were not bet on - something like craps or roulette in this manner I guess. Then someone pulls out one of the little envelopes and opens it. inside is a small drawing of one of the animals. The people on that square win - not all the money, not a poercentage of the money/not 12 times their stake - or even close - they get back their money doubled. 1,000 baht bet, 2,000 retunred (including the bet 1,000) if won. Most of the women at the party and several of the men crowded around this woman putting 500 and 1,000 baht notes all over the paper. One girl who's husband I was chatting to (both Thai), asked mwe why I didn't paly. I said simply, I can count - and the husband laughed. They had no concept, nor did they care, that the odds where 12 to 1 of winning an evens payout. It's all down to the fact that they rely on "luck" and "ancester/spirit guardian/etc" rather than the chances. This is part of the animism that is still pushed here, pretending to be Buddhism, playing right into the hands of those that would take advantage. Incidently, after about an hour, the woman left taking stacks of money with her - she never had any food or drink or interacted with the party at all.

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witsawakorn    20

2% of the Thai population are drug addicts. speaks volumes

Meaning what? Please educate us. It's a stupid non scientific throw away stat that is meaningless. I am more impressed with 3% of American adults having been jailed at some point in their life( source Answers.com). That's something for Thailand to aspire to

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Jayman    856

Apparently there were 2.8m addicts in the UK, 1 year ago. http://www.guardian....drug-users-fall That was, in fact, an improvement. The UK has a similar population to Thailand.

Not addicts. It's the total number of people who used an illegal drug (including marijuana) once within the year. Smoke a single joint and you are part of that figure.

Thailand has a huge drug problem, you hear about drug problems in the UK or US but how many you personally know? one maybe two.. pay attention here and it's astonishing how many people smoke yabaa. I'm not talking only bar girls and taxi drivers, went on a night out with doctors recently they smoked, landlord smokes, lived a few months in a village up north all on yabaa.... supplier was the school principal.

I am far from being a prude when it comes to drugs but methamphetamine is eating away at Thai society.

Would strongly question that they are all smoking "yabaa", given that this is generally used in describing meths. I suppose if you translate literally to crazy medicine, then you would be correct.

But are they addicted, or is it a socal usage? Bit scary when the doctors need their fix!

yabaa = amphetamine tablets

ice= crystal methamphetamine

both are amphetamines and have a similar effect but are formulated with different chemicals.

The yabaa sold in Thailand is actually usually a quite old recipe that was used by the Nazis. (please don't read into my use of the word Nazis)

When a thai is talking about yabaa, you can 100% recon they are talking about amphetamine use and NOT about some other crazy medicine as is the literal translation of the name. Only amphetamines are called yabaa here in Thailand.

Amphetamine use in Thailand has flourished in the past decade where as Cannabis use and Opium use has decreased. Much of this can be blamed on the US drug war. Cannabis use in Thailand used to be much more widespread and in fact the "bong" is a thai word and invention.

The biggest issue is money making and much more money can be made on cheap amphetamine pills than a crop that requires work to plant and harvest.

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elwood    196

Apparently there were 2.8m addicts in the UK, 1 year ago. http://www.guardian....drug-users-fall That was, in fact, an improvement. The UK has a similar population to Thailand.

Maybe it's because the UK people are able to count properly and know their math...

If you care to check out the education standards in the UK now, you will find that UK people definitely cannot count properly, or read properly either.

Sorry if drifting off-topic!

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visions    7

Australia and New Zealand have the highest rates of habitual marijuana use in the world, doesnt seem to affect our society too much. I believe that drugs are a medical problem not a legal one and should all be treated like alcohol and caffeine and nicotine.

You have to be joking right?? with sky high crime as a direct result of substance abuse, the wife and child bashing, dis-jointed families, poor work ethics, mental hospitals overflowing with twisted minds from abuse, road accidents, oh the list is endless.......How anyone with even half a brain could contemplate poisoning them selves with mind bending drugs defies logic. Anyone with a proper functioning mind doesnt need to prop them selves up with an imagined prop. With proper care and nutrition you stay in control of yourself and can create in reality, what becomes a fading dream when you abuse your body.

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waza    4,390

Australia and New Zealand have the highest rates of habitual marijuana use in the world, doesnt seem to affect our society too much. I believe that drugs are a medical problem not a legal one and should all be treated like alcohol and caffeine and nicotine.

You have to be joking right?? with sky high crime as a direct result of substance abuse, the wife and child bashing, dis-jointed families, poor work ethics, mental hospitals overflowing with twisted minds from abuse, road accidents, oh the list is endless.......How anyone with even half a brain could contemplate poisoning them selves with mind bending drugs defies logic. Anyone with a proper functioning mind doesnt need to prop them selves up with an imagined prop. With proper care and nutrition you stay in control of yourself and can create in reality, what becomes a fading dream when you abuse your body.

Reality is just a refuge for people who can't handle drugs. Robin Williams ...

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lee68    75

interesting to think of all drugs being legalized throughout the world ( or at least in America!)..

Assuming numerous Thai people eat Yaba, it helps explain their actions behind the wheel of a car or on motorbikes.. jai ron mak.

That would mean every Thai driver here, because there all shocking drivers

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KeyserSoze01    708

2% of the Thai population are drug addicts. speaks volumes

It has been estimated that 12.5% of US citizens smoke pot on a regular basis and over 37% have tried it at one time. Thailand has a ways to go before they catch up with the big boys on the block.

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sirchai    1,847

Thais will need a very long time to understand the difference between 'soft' and 'hard' drugs. Or let's better say what's right and what's wrong. There was a documentary a few weeks ago about a Thai guy who said he was addicted to pot and this made him so mad that he and his friends killed dogs other weird things.

When showing his daily life, guys sat there and drank loads of Lao Khao, the killer alcohol which isn't a drug, because people pay tax. The guy went to a temple after telling the cops all about his "bad friends" who made him smoke pot.

Ironically there was not even one point where people even mentioned the Lao Khao, which had obviously destroyed their brains. I'm pretty sure that many people believed the "true" story about a little stupid liar. Legalize Strawberry ice..... jap.gif

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TackyToo    472

Apparently there were 2.8m addicts in the UK, 1 year ago. http://www.guardian....drug-users-fall That was, in fact, an improvement. The UK has a similar population to Thailand.

Maybe it's because the UK people are able to count properly and know their math...

If you care to check out the education standards in the UK now, you will find that UK people definitely cannot count properly, or read properly either.

Sorry if drifting off-topic!

Yeah, but they are not the people who make government statements...

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hellodolly    4,442

The only Drug Rehab program I know of with a 70%+ success rate (stays off drugs after the program) is Narconon. There are not enough of these centers around. If there were, the root cause of the problem could get adressed after the natural detox program is complete.

How idealistic is that now...?

Not very.

Where I come from they had a treatment center claiming a high rate of success.

What they did was called you after 6 months and asked you if you were clean. Naturally they got a lot of false information.

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