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Why Are There So Many Americans In Chiang Mai?

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Yanks don't tip that's why in the states they add on 15%. mfr_closed1.gif

I don't know where you're getting your info from...

But speaking as a "yank," most restaurants in the U.S. don't add on any automatic service charge, so it's up to the customer to voluntarily add a tip of their choosing... 15-20% these days is considered normal...but again, it's strictly voluntary in most cases.

So in fact in Thailand, American tourists probably over-tip as a general rule. Because they're not used to or familiar with the notion of an automatic 10% service charge being added on Thai style (even if the service is crappy). But they are used to adding 15% more or less onto the total bill as is the custom back home.

So until they catch onto the 10% service charge scam, a lot of American tourists probably end up double-tipping here.

Speaking personally, I'd rather have the choice of tipping American style... There were relatively few occasions where I've ever left less than 10 or 15% -- unless the service was really bad and I wanted to send a message. But there were lots of times when I left more than 15% to reward good service.

Here, because the Thais add on 10% automatically, I rarely add on any extra of my own... But then again, at regular restaurants here in Bangkok, the service is rarely deserving of any extra tip anyway.

Hmm... they don't "automatically" add 10%. They do in some restaurants but it's the minority, really.

I have it on good authority from some Thai friends of mine who work in the restaurant business that the best tippers are... Thai, actually. Clearly nobody tips at the noodle stall and such, talking about nice restaurants.... Thais tend to be more loose with the money when they're having a good time... or maybe they just know how to have a good time a bit better...

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Let's see, population of U.S. approximately 300 million, population of United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand about 100 million, add in about 34 million Canadians (if you can tell the difference in accents) and you get the the number of U.S. English speakers out-numbering the other first world English speakers by over two to one.

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A hodgepodge of notions:

Perhaps we USAians wish to escape our fairly recent history more than escapees from other nations (Blair's UK excepted.).

I second the motion that "tips" are not included in the restaurant bill in most of the USA, except in a few self-styled 'posh' joints. Socially, it is accepted as almost manditory to tip for other than buffet or short-order restaurants. So it well may be that newcoming expats and tourists from there overtip by Thai standards. Many of us, such as Ulysses, have adapted.

Of course, we all know that Europe is not a country. But none of it is part of the Untied States, which was electrified's point.

I too find many native English language speaking folks here who are not 'Americans' and wonder, given our relative populations, if the theory that Americans are here in greater numbers is correct at all. If so, yes, it is because Chiang Mai is cheap and most of us here like cheap, no matter our standard of living.

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Of course, we all know that Europe is not a country. But none of it is part of the Untied States, which was electrified's point.

Elektrified's point didn't seem to have anything to with the fact that Europe is not part of the United States.It seemed to lump all the people of the 50 sovereign states of the European land mass into a group called 'Europeans'.

Here's a clue. We're not.

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Could it be that many are missionaries?

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Let's see, population of U.S. approximately 300 million, population of United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand about 100 million, add in about 34 million Canadians (if you can tell the difference in accents) and you get the the number of U.S. English speakers out-numbering the other first world English speakers by over two to one.

That's true. However, i'd be surprised if Americans outnumbered the British in somewhere like Samui, or outnumbered Australians in Phuket

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Buddhism vs Muslim as a core value.

Just FYI, Muslim is to Islam as Buddhist is to Buddhism - so it's Buddhism vs Islam

Sorry, the pedant in me escaped for a moment...

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Pretty simple. There are over 300 million Americans. They should equal almost all the Europeans combined.

On the other hand. Many of them don't know where or what Chiang Mai is.

Of course they do. Taiwan.

No it's in North Carolina!

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Mexico was my first choice. I could drive myself there, and spoke the language.

However, I wasn't interested in dying during a carjacking, or while dining with friends, so I came to Chiang Mai.

Thailand may have some rough spots, but it's not a war zone. Mexico most definitely is.

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