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Why Are There So Many Americans In Chiang Mai?

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I agree. I meet a lot of Aussies but meet a whole lot more Europeans. In fact I would say that I mostly meet Europeans here.

Europe isn't a country.

Where did I say Europe was a country?

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Of course, we all know that Europe is not a country. But none of it is part of the Untied States, which was electrified's point.

Elektrified's point didn't seem to have anything to with the fact that Europe is not part of the United States.It seemed to lump all the people of the 50 sovereign states of the European land mass into a group called 'Europeans'.

Here's a clue. We're not.

O.K. it's getting silly. All I did raise a simple point that in my daily travels I meet mostly foreigners that come from European countries (as opposed to Americans, Australians, Canadians, etc.) I wasn't offering any scientific data based on research, numbers, etc. I didn't think for such a simple reply I needed to get into how many I met were from Britain, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, "Central Europe" (as the Czechs refer to their land), etc., etc.

It was a simple reply. No need to get carried away.

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In my circle of acquaintances, the American retirees tend to be "permanent" residents of Chiang Mai, while it's more common for Europeans and Australians to be seasonal residents, even if they do return every year and maintain a residence here. The reasons may be due to the long and expensive flight to and from the U.S. and the fact that there is no need for Americans to return to the U.S. periodically to maintain coverage in the national health care system -- there isn't one!

So, it may seem that there are more Americans just because we're here full-time and not just seasonally.

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Let's see, population of U.S. approximately 300 million, population of United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand about 100 million, add in about 34 million Canadians (if you can tell the difference in accents) and you get the the number of U.S. English speakers out-numbering the other first world English speakers by over two to one.

thought Spanish was the first language in some of the America's larger populas area's

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Speaking as a Brit the reason, I think that there are a lot of Americans here include the fact that there is a hugely out of proportion consulate here, so that's a thousand folk with their dependents; Then there's the DEA mob and their families; then there's the missionaries. Zillions of them all who seem to be living here on generous incomes.

There are a lot of retirees too and I guess the number of retirees is proportionate to the number of retired Americans compared to retired Euros. I

f we sent the missionaries home we'd cut the number of Americans here by 50% (only joking).

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The only reason that I tip is to piss off Europeans who won't. Since it doesn't seem to piss off the Thais, I figure that it's a win win.

Strange way to think, why would it piss of Europeans if you tip.yeap giving away your money makes you a winner and pisses off us Europeans cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

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Chiang Mai is largely a city of saints and sinners as far as Americans are concerned. It has a large percentage of Missionaries who often preach illegally in China on tourist visas and return to CM till the weather gets better in China. It has a large gay population, largely from the US who come to CM as the new SanFransisco and then it has a few other americans just trying to live. I leave it to the reader to decide which group each belongs.

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If you're American please dont come here thinking its SF; you will simply add to the problem.... the unis already have an 80% population of those 'batting for the other side' hard to believe but true.

my biggest fear is that i will turn one day (all said tongue in cheek!)

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Let's see, population of U.S. approximately 300 million, population of United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand about 100 million, add in about 34 million Canadians (if you can tell the difference in accents) and you get the the number of U.S. English speakers out-numbering the other first world English speakers by over two to one.

That's true. However, i'd be surprised if Americans outnumbered the British in somewhere like Samui, or outnumbered Australians in Phuket

Really? Why are there so many Brits in Samui and Aussies in Phuket?

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Really? Why are there so many Brits in Samui and Aussies in Phuket?

I can't answer that but back in 1989 when I first went to Koh Samui, every other tourist I met was an Australian.

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Really? Why are there so many Brits in Samui and Aussies in Phuket?

I can't answer that but back in 1989 when I first went to Koh Samui, every other tourist I met was an Australian.

I don't really have an answer for that either.

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If you're American please dont come here thinking its SF; you will simply add to the problem.... the unis already have an 80% population of those 'batting for the other side' hard to believe but true.

my biggest fear is that i will turn one day (all said tongue in cheek!)

Why is a large gay population a problem? BTW, I think you are grossly exaggerating. Even San Francisco includes only 30 percent gay people.
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"One thing i noticed, was the amount of American accents. Whether in the hotel, at a bar, walking the markets, I would hear American accents. (Some might have been Canadian). Seemed to be a lot of ex pats and also a lot of younger backpackers."

I don't think there are that many Americans here, they are just louder than most folks so it seems like it.

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it's a fun discussion, but we need real numbers to get beyond conjecture. i don't necessarily believe that there is a disproportionately large number of americans. or that americans are disproportionately larger. or that the talking geckos in your house are more likely to vote republican than are the talking geckos in my house (at least that's what they tell me). or that the fish spa liberation movement is better armed than the loi kroh democratic front. or that in the cool season, the ki naow, ki naow is any colder than the akha akha all day. it's like woody allen's old joke: doctor, my brother thinks he's a chicken. why don't you turn him in? i would, but i need the eggs.

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