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100,000 People Missing In Thailand Over The Past Few Years

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I've heard more than a few anecdotes from acquaintences in the army and police that they essentially had had carte blanche for a couple of years now in ridding the country of terrorists/secessionists without trial. Myself I doubt how they could possibly cover it all up without the secret getting out, but once in awhile you do hear of stuff like this happening (with the handcuffed media staying clear of unapproved news stories)....for instance the huge number of traffic police officers diagnosed with lung cancer at the Police Hospital right across from Central World. Never heard of it until I was told it was true by a police doctor and nurse who work there "it's a been cancer colony for 15-20 years now." They don't let it get publicized the same way the traffic police don't allow the local gov't to install too many automatic traffic lights.

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Don't forget that on ONE SINGLE DIG, while looking for the remains of Somchai, the lawyer from the South who disappeared under Thaksin, Dr Pornthip and her team recovered 8 different bodies, or what remained of them, and got 8 confirmed individual human DNA samples, in one single spot!. That's a lot of dead bodies for ONE DIG. Most of us have no idea of what goes on here, no idea...

So true. Here's just one true story about a dozen dead farangs. In Phuket during the past 20 years, but WAY before the tsunami, a new chief policeman was appointed and he actually went round to related agencies asking if he could help in any way. (And this was before TAT coined the phrase 'Amazing Thailand'!).

When he got to the biggest hospital the chief said "Yes, how can we get rid of all these bodies in the mortuary fridges (or freezers, whatever)? We have almost no room left."

The new policeman looked into it and found around 12 foreign corpses, mainly from motorcycle accidents but one or two from crimes, which had never been properly identified. Details were sent to Embassies and almost all were i/d and many 'missing persons' cases suddenly solved.

And that's just one instance...........

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I believe she was talking about missing persons, whether they are dead or not, is unknown.

She than elaborated on the corspes that ARE found, hundreds of whom are unindentified. No doubt many, many are never found or haven't yet, anyway, in unmarked graves... thrown in the ocean... or rivers.. etc.

Taking into account that 1 province had 300 in one year, multiplied by say 4 years (quote "over the past few years") multiplied by all the other provinces... it adds up to a lot. Whether it adds up to 100,000 or not, it is still a huge number.

It is not that difficult:

TL has aprox 75 (don't know the exact number) provinces

75 x 300 = 22 500

100 000 / 22 500 = about 4 years and 5 months

I think even a tenth of this would be quiete a lot.

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I agree with both of your posts above. It is a large number, and not every single province will have the same rate of deaths due to direct conflict with the military. However, over several years, with every category of possible missing persons mentioned previously including civil incidents such as unreported deaths and dumping, a figure upwards of that amount is not impossible.

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2. In respect of a 100K disappearing due to the insurgency in less than 8 months, well, that's a bit over the top.

I am certainly not stating that mass graves are hushed up. What I am saying is that it is difficult to dispose of 100,000 bodies so quickly. When one gets into a number like 100,000 it is not an isolated political event or rogue policing, it is state sponsored genocide. ...

My doubt is in respect to the number of 100,000+ being offered. I think we can agree that whether there are 10 murders or 100 or 10,000, they are equally as wrong.

Again:

1. She didn't state 100K disappearances in less than 8 months due to the insurgency. Read the article again.

2. She mentioned disappearances upwards of this number in several years, with a focus on the insurgency.

3. Many of these numbers could include civil disappearances as well, such as dumping in your previous examples, and other examples given previously, over a time period of several years, carried out by both individuals and representatives of the state, such as police.

4. The article could have been written or quoted poorly, to either intentionally or incompetently conflate the number with the insurgency alone. In her actual quote, she says that she doesn't know the exact number. *Look at the source of the 100K quote: The Straits Times; enough said.

*Added: I agree that 100K is a large number, but I disagree with your arguments.

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Thanks Kat. Saved me the trouble of pointing out again the inability of GKid to extract the estimated nationwide tally of disappeared referred to by Dr Pornthip, rather than just the Southern problem over 8 months, playing in the mind of the Kid. Hope he has a better eye for detail when working on a burial site or doing forensic science. :o

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