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Advice Dark Caves Around Chiang Mai, Suitable For A Dark Room Meditation Retreat

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Subj. So there are only 3 reqs:

- cave have to be completely dark

- cave have to be comfortable for a long sitting (no water or mud)

- cave have to be not popular for tourist (otherwise it will be hard to meditate there)

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Suggest you add to your list of requirements:

- cave not a home for bats with air contaminated with bat faeces' dust

And, what are you going to do when a snake, sensing your body-heat, slithers over, and wants to cuddle with you; when spiders crawl over you; when other unknown nocturnal animals come around ?

Suggest you consider getting a small tent with adequate fine-mesh ventilation panels to allow air in and screen insects out, finding a quiet place. Put in industrial strength ear-plugs, wear a sleep mask.

~o:37;

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Bats faeces is np :)

Guys, closer to subject, pls, closer. If you prefer to meditate with earplugs or in wardrobe - your choice, I prefer caves.

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If you can be flexible with times and can handle a drive there would be a heap of caves available in Chiang Dao, some of which have been used (and one that I know definately still is) for the purposes you intend. Even the ones that are open to tourists are not packed all the time, and, there are many areas that not generally open for tourists (lack of lighting, adequate footing for elderly tourists, or that people are to "big boned" to access). No problems there with bats/insects etc but they can get pretty cold. No doubt after some discussion the on hand guides can take you in to a secluded area and bring you out later, or have a word with monks near the caves. Not aware of anything nearer that Chiang Dao that would suit your purposes. If you can be flexible with times there are many periods where a lot of the caves have staff available but no tourists....

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mamborobert, thanks for a great advice! I thought about Chiang Dao and we will go there if we will not find something closer.

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The Indian sage sri Ramana Maharshi spent 23 years of his young live in cages but Self-realisation (enlightenment in Buddhism) found place already several years earlier. He never advised anyone (and non of the great teachers did) to practice meditation in a cave. All he advised was to do self inquiry by asking "who am I?".

I don't know the reason you will meditate in a cave but it is just an idea you will find more peace in there.

This having said, I doubt there are caves for your need which are free to enter to meditate longer than a part of a day.

Search for the national parks like Doi Inthanon etc.

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i prefer going up near pai and just walking into the jungle. but hey, if you need the support of a cave go for it.

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There is the Mae Sap Cave a few km past Samoeng. It is easy to enter and I have seldom, if ever, seen anyone there. I haven't actually been inside in quite a number of years, so I can't comment on the current condition.

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Tham Tukatan is a wonderful cave well off the beaten path about 12-15kms up the Samoeng Rd (1269) look for turn-off on the left. Massive cathedrals alight with absolute darkness.

I have a Brazillian friend living near us who is interested in cave meditation and goes there, if you can't find the cave, drop me a line and I'd be happy to can spin you up there - we will be arriving back to CM Oct.17. Cheers

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The Mae Sap cave is outside Samoeng town and just off the road ,not suitable for what you need,its not a very deep cave and has become a tourist-site.

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I think you should find that the hong nahm in your current abode would suit well for this. Just sit on the throne with the lights out and meditate to your heart's content.

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Or, there are the Mae On caves, just past San Kapheng. easy access and does get a few visitors, but as others have posted, maybe some branches that are off the beaten track would be suitable??Or, why not just use a condo and blacken the windows or build a concrete bunker?? isn't the object of meditation to remove your self/mind from your earthly surroundings??

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