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Apple Cider Vinegar For Weight Loss ... Any Feedback?

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Nothing new but I got this idea from this promotional video for an interesting weight loss pill (not for sale in Thailand).

The doctor promoting it suggests some "do it yourself" options for those not taking his pill.

1. Eat more Potassium. I think this isn't very controversial. Probably much more controversial is that increasing Adiponectin (presumably can be sourced from potasium) boosts so called fat burning hormone.

http://www.healthali...f-potassium.php

From the pill promoter:

“A lack of adequate adiponectin is emerging as a significant factor in people’s inability to melt flab and stay slim.”

2. Apple Cider Vinegar

Which is what I started the thread about.

The idea is to take 2 tablespoons of the stuff (diluted I think) before high carb meals.

I think a debatable idea but wonder have any of you tried it?

The doctor links obesity with insulin resistance even for the majority of fat people who aren't clinically diabetic. He contends there is evidence that apple cider vinegar addresses this problem:

If you’re overweight, there’s a good chance that you’re experiencing some level of insulin imbalance, resulting in excess glucose, or sugar, in your system.

While this doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re diabetic, it does mean that your body’s insulin, or glucose regulator, becomes less effective at lowering your blood sugars.

...

A recent study found that consuming 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar before a high carb meal significantly reduces blood glucose levels for those people with insulin resistance, which is that imbalance I spoke about.

The video link I am referring to in transcript form. I am not endorsing it but I find the Apple Cider Vinegar idea interesting:

http://www.realdose....o-shatter-them/

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I had a friend who swore by it. ( Apple Cider Vinegar )

He would drink it diluted in a glass of water

I have not tried it myself.

But, I will tell you another thing I did use it for.

Hair rinse. It is Excellent!!

Just put a small amount in a squirt bottle or plastic water bottle & fill the rest with water.

When using a regular bicycle type water bottle I put about 3/4 inch in then the rest water

Couple times a week after showering before getting out squirt some in your hair & rub it around

You can rinse or not. It smells like vinegar only while wet when dry there is no smell.

Rinse if it bothers you.

Anyway it cleans all the crap that shampoos & conditioners leave behind.

You will notice a difference.

My problem is here in Thailand I only see small pricey bottles of it.

So have not been using it here. I hope to find some Thai brand at a decent price.

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I bought a large bottle (32 ounce) of S&W brand Apple Cider Vinegar at Villa for 170 baht. I think not a bad price. I have heard about the benefits for hair as well. Thanks for the info.

I should also add that the Doctor who suggested it also included two other tips for the do it yourself people.

I mentioned two.

The other two are get enough sleep! I think it has been definitely proven that lack of sleep is directly linked to obesity.

Also, reduce stress which he says if you don't do, the Vinegar won't work. He suggests a technique in the link I included before.

While I understand the Doctor is after big profits, I do feel it adds credibility to his pitch that he suggests alternative non-pill methods.

BTW: He ALSO suggests good diet and exercise. That's a given. But as many people realize, the vast majority of fat people who try diet and exercise alone FAIL in the long term. I am definitely in the "there is more to it" camp.

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JT,

There are only a few pills that really work and those are often illigal with serious side effects (i still tried a few). Anyway, in the end it all comes down to you diet (and i don't mean crash diets) just controlling your food intake.

The pills and apple cider vinegar your talking about if it were to have any effect the effect would only be a few percent and that is something you will only notice in years not months. Really, exercise and diet (diet the more important part for the weight loss) are needed.

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I lost 26 kilos of ugly fat by cutting out junk food, cooking 98%+ of my meals and exercising.

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I know the orthodox views that it's only about diet and exercise. I do not believe that and never will, but thanks for sharing.

I agree there is no magic pill and may never be. (Actually I think there will be but certainly not yet.) For the vast majority of people to hope for long term success, they're looking at bariatric surgery, and that's pretty horrible. Doctors who tell their fat patients, just go home and diet and exercise and can offer nothing else, they know full well their advice will fail for the vast majority of their patients, and that's a fact.

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Organic farmers here in NZ often drench livestock with cider vinegar. The theory is it kills parasites in the gut.

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I know the orthodox views that it's only about diet and exercise. I do not believe that and never will, but thanks for sharing.

I agree there is no magic pill and may never be. (Actually I think there will be but certainly not yet.) For the vast majority of people to hope for long term success, they're looking at bariatric surgery, and that's pretty horrible. Doctors who tell their fat patients, just go home and diet and exercise and can offer nothing else, they know full well their advice will fail for the vast majority of their patients, and that's a fact.

Its because people want it easy. You love to eat, at least i got that impression from your topics.

You cant get lean without sacrifice else everyone was lean.

Google uk muscle and DNP for a magic and effective pil. Yet not without risks but its one of the few things i know that works.

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<snip>

1. Eat more Potassium. I think this isn't very controversial.

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Anyone taking ACE inhibitors (probably a fair percentage of TV members) and certain other medications need to be aware that raised potassium levels can have a severe health impact and such dietary changes should be guided by qualified medical opinion, not quack remedies espoused on anonymous internet fora.

Google 'hyperkalemia' and note its significance for death row inmates.

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OK, after one day on the Apple Cider Vinegar program I have some comments.

The vinegar (diluted) tastes neither pleasant nor unpleasant. I actually like it a little bit. After drinking it on empty stomach I feel like I reek of vinegar. Again, not bad, just interesting. I was concerned it might cause an upset stomach but not so far. One thing I have noticed is there might be a psychological result of drinking the acid. You see the thing is if you take the trouble to do this ritual you are doing something, whether it helps or not. So in deciding what food choices to make after drinking it, I think there is greater chance of picking healthier options. So far I haven't really noticed any reduction in appetite (or an increase). Some claim it helps with digestion. No comment ... yet.

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JT,

Just let us know, and if it helps you then its good. Just don't expect miracles, i would not have been busting my ass in the gym and controlling my food intake the last year if i thought it could be done easier. I did try a few aids and they did help but in the end its how much you burn.

Anyway good luck with it and if you pick healthier options its always good.

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Thanks. Not expecting any miracles. The doctor pill pusher referred doesn't promise miracles either.

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As you might have gathered, I am going to give the ACV thing a trial for a while and see how it goes.

Some new stuff about it:

I found Big C Extra (ex-Carrefour) has Casino brand ACV much cheaper than the best price at Villa

Unfiltered (and organic) ACV would obviously be better. Can't find that locally and if I could I reckon it would very expensive. So the question now is whether if any ACV is effective, does it NEED to be unfiltered, or is the filtered stuff totally worthless? My feeling is that the filtered stuff is still strong stuff but obviously can't really answer this question.

Several sources say drink the ACV in WARM water. So I started that.

I don't know how many minutes before eating you are supposed to drink it, so I am mixing that up. 15 minutes to an hour.

Apparently the vinegar can damage tooth enamel. I believe that. So now I am using a straw and gulping it down past the teeth area.

Only a few days, totally anecdotal, very possible PLACEBO effect, but I have noticed a positive change in perception of digestion and also rather surprising one large evening meal that I was planning on eating I found I just wasn't hungry and skipped the meal entirely. I am not big on skipping meals because yes eating delicious food is a great pleasure for me. I do try in general to only eat if actually hungry rather than because the clock says mealtime.

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I take one or two teaspons of ACV a day. I mix it with cold water and orange flavored Metemucil because I do not like the Vinegar taste. Also, keeps me regualr:)))

You should use the unfiltered/undistilled version. With "mother" as they call it. You will see the sentiment settled in the bottom of the bottle. Shake before using. They sell the Bragg's brand at the Market located under the Central Mall Pattaya. At least they did about 6 months ago.

You should be taking it for 3-6 months before noticing any benefits.

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The "Mother" huh? That sounds real scientific. coffee1.gif

I think that manufacturer made up that Mother stuff to push sales. Good for them. I agree organic unfiltered would obviously be better for sure though.

Anyway obviously doing 2 tablespoons before every meal is a bigger dose.

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