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donaldinho9    3

So the casino bus is a big tour/coach bus?

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Yes, a large and generally pretty comfortable bus. Get the bus from Central Bang Na. Academic (you almost certainly do not want to do this) most casino buses will sell you a return ticket for 300 baht if you return on the same bus. The trouble is that you will end up spending about 6 hours in Rong Kleua/Poipet, and apart from the casino and a bit of shopping, there is nothing to do. I just mention it in case you like spending a few hours in a casino.

Hi Tim,

So if I didn't take the return/same bus back it's only an extra 100 baht (200 each way)? Where exactly do I get the bus at Central Bang Na? Do you know the departure schedule/how often they leave between 5-10am? If I don't take the same bus back, there are others frequently heading back to Central Bang Na from Poipet that I can hop on? With the $30 USD visa fee entering Cambodia do I need passport sized photos as well? Lots of questions sorry! Thanks for your help!!

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scubascuba3    671

Visa system does seem over complicated, maybe all countries are the same. Why not 6 months fee x, 12 months fee y, 2 years fee z. Something simple. All this extend rubbish its just a job creating industry.

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jay1980    500

I thank those who replied to my question and all is clear . I cannot get a METV but I can get a extention based on retirement renewable every year . Better in a way .

To those who think this visa is wonderful and easy to get I would like to comment on that .

I would agree with this visa as a welcome step forward except for the condition that you must be working , self employed or receiving State Pension . It excludes quite a chunk of people like myself who are retired early not of pensionable age . Given that Thailand is all about attracting money , why introduce a visa that excludes one of the groups of people who have the most disposable income of all and who are likely to stay longer than those in a full time job who have to get back to work .? They should have introduced into that clause perhaps a condition that these very people have to have £xxx on deposit at a Thai bank . That would then keep everyone happy . I asked the consulate at Hull yesterday and they confirmed even if I was a 1st prize lottery winner with £10million (I'm not by the way ) I would NOT qualify for this METV . I mean how mad is that ?

And its even worse for those retired early and under 50 years old .. they have to make do with a SETV no matter how much money they have .

Whoever drafted this new visa clearly totally forgot about a whole section of the population . Clearly it wasn't a deliberate decision , Thailand would never turn away a wealthy group , they simply forgot .

Amazing Thailand indeed

I am under 50 and pretty much retired living off investments, however I had no problem getting a METV visa from Hull last week.

I just gave them copies of my last SA100 and SA105 tax returns, as well as the other requirements including one of my saving account statements showing a balance of over £5,000 going back 6 months, an electric bill from my condo, ticket into Thailand and one out again within 6 Months. (not a return ticket, my ticket out was just a short hop to Malaysia), 2 passport photo's, a completed application form and my passport.

If you are non working but have a legitimate income where you pay actual UK tax properly you can still get a METV at Hull.

hope that helps.

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BritTim    3,962

Hi Tim,

So if I didn't take the return/same bus back it's only an extra 100 baht (200 each way)? Where exactly do I get the bus at Central Bang Na? Do you know the departure schedule/how often they leave between 5-10am? If I don't take the same bus back, there are others frequently heading back to Central Bang Na from Poipet that I can hop on? With the $30 USD visa fee entering Cambodia do I need passport sized photos as well? Lots of questions sorry! Thanks for your help!!

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As long as you go early morning, the casino buses from Central Bang Na are frequent (maybe every 20 mins on average). It is not that easy to explain where the casino buses tend to congregate. Coming from Bangkok, you pass a pedestrian bridge and a gap where traffic on the Bangna-Trad highway can pull onto the frontage road. The buses that pass and just stop briefly usually do so near that spot. Buses originating from Central may park out on the main road, or may be in a nearby side soi that runs beside Central. If you see a big bus that does not look like a company employee bus, it will often be a casino bus. Ask.

Yes, an extra 100 baht if you take a different casino bus back (or an extra 130 baht if you take a minibus back). The return casino buses start around 1:00 pm or so. If you take, say, an 8:00 am bus outbound, you arrive at the border at around 11:00 am. Depending on luck, you can be in and out of Cambodia by about 12:30 pm. Ask where the casino buses leave from, look to see when one is leaving and ask if they have a spare seat (usually, they do). Grab something to eat if you have time. The return trip takes about 4 hours, typically, as they are in less of a hurry and tend to stop somewhere en route for people to eat/toilet break.

You need one visa photo (or, alternatively, they will waive the requirement for 100 baht).

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SunsetT    668

Hi, there are so many pages to this thread the answer to my question may be hidden in here somewhere but if it is I can't find it . So apologies if its already been answered but my question is this ....

regarding this new METV the difficulty for me is that I have voluntarily retired , am not self-employed (as I am retired ) and although retired do am not old enough to have a state pension . So am I right in thinking that whatever financial figures I can prove this visa seems to completely exclude those of us say 50-65 retired but without state pension ?

It appears to me that whoever drafted this new visa completely forgot to cater for those who are financially independent and retired before state pension age. I am a UK citizen.

What do you expert members think ?

Being retired shouldn't stop you getting a METV as long as you can prove your income.

No terminal 22 is right. Although Thai embassies in some countries are being logical and reasonable in applying the income criteria for an METV, the London Embassy will not accept income, such as income from rentals, that is not classed as 'employed' or 'self-employed'. Like so many things Thai that are absurd, this rules out those that most need it that dont want to live there but have the time and money to spend their winters in Thailand. Most employed or self-employed people are working so cannot spend 6 to 9 mths doing nothing in Thailand anyway. Maybe they dont want Brits since we kick up such a fuss when they keep murdering our kids on Koh Tao, etc., etc., and expect something to be done about it. Whoever heard of such a thing!!!

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jay1980    500

Hi, there are so many pages to this thread the answer to my question may be hidden in here somewhere but if it is I can't find it . So apologies if its already been answered but my question is this ....

regarding this new METV the difficulty for me is that I have voluntarily retired , am not self-employed (as I am retired ) and although retired do am not old enough to have a state pension . So am I right in thinking that whatever financial figures I can prove this visa seems to completely exclude those of us say 50-65 retired but without state pension ?

It appears to me that whoever drafted this new visa completely forgot to cater for those who are financially independent and retired before state pension age. I am a UK citizen.

What do you expert members think ?

Being retired shouldn't stop you getting a METV as long as you can prove your income.

No terminal 22 is right. Although Thai embassies in some countries are being logical and reasonable in applying the income criteria for an METV, the London Embassy will not accept income, such as income from rentals, that is not classed as 'employed' or 'self-employed'. Like so many things Thai that are absurd, this rules out those that most need it that dont want to live there but have the time and money to spend their winters in Thailand. Most employed or self-employed people are working so cannot spend 6 to 9 mths doing nothing in Thailand anyway. Maybe they dont want Brits since we kick up such a fuss when they keep murdering our kids on Koh Tao, etc., etc., and expect something to be done about it. Whoever heard of such a thing!!!

I am a Brit and financially independent, with 70% of my income coming from fully managed uk biased BTL properties.

I had no problem getting an METV visa in the UK after submitting the correct paperwork including a copy of my UK tax return forms certified by my UK accountant proving my income is genuine and I pay full UK tax on this income.

Do you know any actual real cases of anyone being refused a METV visa after submitting this paperwork (and satisfying the other criteria) or this this statement just conjecture?

thanks

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SunsetT    668

Hi, there are so many pages to this thread the answer to my question may be hidden in here somewhere but if it is I can't find it . So apologies if its already been answered but my question is this ....

regarding this new METV the difficulty for me is that I have voluntarily retired , am not self-employed (as I am retired ) and although retired do am not old enough to have a state pension . So am I right in thinking that whatever financial figures I can prove this visa seems to completely exclude those of us say 50-65 retired but without state pension ?

It appears to me that whoever drafted this new visa completely forgot to cater for those who are financially independent and retired before state pension age. I am a UK citizen.

What do you expert members think ?

Being retired shouldn't stop you getting a METV as long as you can prove your income.

No terminal 22 is right. Although Thai embassies in some countries are being logical and reasonable in applying the income criteria for an METV, the London Embassy will not accept income, such as income from rentals, that is not classed as 'employed' or 'self-employed'. Like so many things Thai that are absurd, this rules out those that most need it that dont want to live there but have the time and money to spend their winters in Thailand. Most employed or self-employed people are working so cannot spend 6 to 9 mths doing nothing in Thailand anyway. Maybe they dont want Brits since we kick up such a fuss when they keep murdering our kids on Koh Tao, etc., etc., and expect something to be done about it. Whoever heard of such a thing!!!

I am a Brit and financially independent, with 70% of my income coming from fully managed uk biased BTL properties.

I had no problem getting an METV visa in the UK after submitting the correct paperwork including a copy of my UK tax return forms certified by my UK accountant proving my income is genuine and I pay full UK tax on this income.

Do you know any actual real cases of anyone being refused a METV visa after submitting this paperwork (and satisfying the other criteria) or this this statement just conjecture?

thanks

I am very pleased to hear your application was successful. I do hope they have relaxed their strict interpretation of the requirements. But when the METV was introduced the requirements were not enforced for a period of time because at such short notice applicants would not have been able to provide the paperwork required, e.g: 3 months bank statements showing 5k. Perhaps your application benefitted from this period of grace? When was your appl.? Maybe this grace period is continuing.

I personally have not applied for an METV as I stay near a Thai border so 3 X SETVs will suit me better and be cheaper, far less inconvenient, time consuming and stressful than preparing a METV appl. which might be turned down on a whim by a Thai who happened to have got out of bed on the wrong side in the morning! But since all postal visa applications have had to be sent to London I did have an 'O' visa turned down because my more than adequate income from property was ineligible despite telephone supplications and tax returns being offered. So yes I admit to a degree of conjecture but, despite my posting twice on this thread about this, no one has replied positively and yours is the 1st post that I have read of a succesfull UK postal appl. on such grounds (Was it postal or did you apply in person? Was it London? As this could make a difference) . But I have read many posts, like Terminal 22's worrying and complaining that the METV requirements, if strictly enforced, exclude them. I have not followed this thread religiously so I may have missed some posts.

I would very much like to hear of more financially independent successful postal applicants to London, or anyone who has phoned them and been told that their application on such grounds would be accepted.

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I am very pleased to hear your application was successful. I do hope they have relaxed their strict interpretation of the requirements. But when the METV was introduced the requirements were not enforced for a period of time because at such short notice applicants would not have been able to provide the paperwork required, e.g: 3 months bank statements showing 5k. Perhaps your application benefitted from this period of grace? When was your appl.? Maybe this grace period is continuing.

I personally have not applied for an METV as I stay near a Thai border so 3 X SETVs will suit me better and be cheaper, far less inconvenient, time consuming and stressful than preparing a METV appl. which might be turned down on a whim by a Thai who happened to have got out of bed on the wrong side in the morning! But since all postal visa applications have had to be sent to London I did have an 'O' visa turned down because my more than adequate income from property was ineligible despite telephone supplications and tax returns being offered. So yes I admit to a degree of conjecture but, despite my posting twice on this thread about this, no one has replied positively and yours is the 1st post that I have read of a succesfull UK postal appl. on such grounds (Was it postal or did you apply in person? Was it London? As this could make a difference) . But I have read many posts, like Terminal 22's worrying and complaining that the METV requirements, if strictly enforced, exclude them. I have not followed this thread religiously so I may have missed some posts.

I would very much like to hear of more financially independent successful postal applicants to London, or anyone who has phoned them and been told that their application on such grounds would be accepted.

As I said there is no reason for someone that is 'retired' or financially independent being denied the METV as long as they can prove their income. They are effectively treated the same as a self employed person and would need to provide proof of pension/income and or tax returns.

The main reason for the employment criteria is to demonstrate the applicant has a job to go home to and no need to work in Thailand.

London do not issue a non 'O' to over 50's anymore regardless of the income source. You have to be state pension age. Your rental income would have been accepted for a non 'O-A' visa if you had it certified correctly.

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jay1980    500

Hi, I got my METV visa last week (Wednesday 13th July 16). I applied in person, not by post.

As well as submitting copies of my UK tax return forms (SA100,SA105 and SA110) that had been stamped by my UK accountant, I also submitted bank statements from my UK Natwest savings account that proved my balance had never been under £5,000 within the last 6 months, details of my accommodation which is in my own condo and included a copy of my charnote and a recent electric bill and a e-ticket of my flight into Thailand and a cheap e-ticket out of Thailand to Malaysia within 6 months.

I listed my occupation as 'landlord of fully managed investment property' bit of a mouthful but I wanted to stress that I do not work in Thailand in any capacity (not even remotely managing my properties).

I hope that helps.

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SunsetT    668

Hi, I got my METV visa last week (Wednesday 13th July 16). I applied in person, not by post.

As well as submitting copies of my UK tax return forms (SA100,SA105 and SA110) that had been stamped by my UK accountant, I also submitted bank statements from my UK Natwest savings account that proved my balance had never been under £5,000 within the last 6 months, details of my accommodation which is in my own condo and included a copy of my charnote and a recent electric bill and a e-ticket of my flight into Thailand and a cheap e-ticket out of Thailand to Malaysia within 6 months.

I listed my occupation as 'landlord of fully managed investment property' bit of a mouthful but I wanted to stress that I do not work in Thailand in any capacity (not even remotely managing my properties).

I hope that helps.

Thanks...........Was it London?

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SunsetT    668

I am very pleased to hear your application was successful. I do hope they have relaxed their strict interpretation of the requirements. But when the METV was introduced the requirements were not enforced for a period of time because at such short notice applicants would not have been able to provide the paperwork required, e.g: 3 months bank statements showing 5k. Perhaps your application benefitted from this period of grace? When was your appl.? Maybe this grace period is continuing.

I personally have not applied for an METV as I stay near a Thai border so 3 X SETVs will suit me better and be cheaper, far less inconvenient, time consuming and stressful than preparing a METV appl. which might be turned down on a whim by a Thai who happened to have got out of bed on the wrong side in the morning! But since all postal visa applications have had to be sent to London I did have an 'O' visa turned down because my more than adequate income from property was ineligible despite telephone supplications and tax returns being offered. So yes I admit to a degree of conjecture but, despite my posting twice on this thread about this, no one has replied positively and yours is the 1st post that I have read of a succesfull UK postal appl. on such grounds (Was it postal or did you apply in person? Was it London? As this could make a difference) . But I have read many posts, like Terminal 22's worrying and complaining that the METV requirements, if strictly enforced, exclude them. I have not followed this thread religiously so I may have missed some posts.

I would very much like to hear of more financially independent successful postal applicants to London, or anyone who has phoned them and been told that their application on such grounds would be accepted.

As I said there is no reason for someone that is 'retired' or financially independent being denied the METV as long as they can prove their income. They are effectively treated the same as a self employed person and would need to provide proof of pension/income and or tax returns......

......................How do you know this??? Do you mean London?

The main reason for the employment criteria is to demonstrate the applicant has a job to go home to and no need to work in Thailand.

London do not issue a non 'O' to over 50's anymore regardless of the income source. .........Do you think I dont know this?. Your rental income would have been accepted for a non 'O-A' visa if you had it certified correctly..........On what authority are you telling me that it would have been accepted?.......................I was told clearly over the phone by London that rental income was not acceptable for an O-A visa which is what I was applying for ....................In my post I was writing of applying for an 'O' visa generically, as Id forgotten that it was specifically an O-A.

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jay1980    500

Hi, I got my METV visa last week (Wednesday 13th July 16). I applied in person, not by post.

As well as submitting copies of my UK tax return forms (SA100,SA105 and SA110) that had been stamped by my UK accountant, I also submitted bank statements from my UK Natwest savings account that proved my balance had never been under £5,000 within the last 6 months, details of my accommodation which is in my own condo and included a copy of my charnote and a recent electric bill and a e-ticket of my flight into Thailand and a cheap e-ticket out of Thailand to Malaysia within 6 months.

I listed my occupation as 'landlord of fully managed investment property' bit of a mouthful but I wanted to stress that I do not work in Thailand in any capacity (not even remotely managing my properties).

I hope that helps.

Thanks...........Was it London?

No Hull, my mum lives in Yorkshire so I went there. I do have a mate who did get a METV from London recently by providing similar information, he is not a Thaivisa member but I will ask him the details when I next see him and report back if it helps.

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SunsetT    668

Hi, I got my METV visa last week (Wednesday 13th July 16). I applied in person, not by post.

As well as submitting copies of my UK tax return forms (SA100,SA105 and SA110) that had been stamped by my UK accountant, I also submitted bank statements from my UK Natwest savings account that proved my balance had never been under £5,000 within the last 6 months, details of my accommodation which is in my own condo and included a copy of my charnote and a recent electric bill and a e-ticket of my flight into Thailand and a cheap e-ticket out of Thailand to Malaysia within 6 months.

I listed my occupation as 'landlord of fully managed investment property' bit of a mouthful but I wanted to stress that I do not work in Thailand in any capacity (not even remotely managing my properties).

I hope that helps.

Thanks...........Was it London?

No Hull, my mum lives in Yorkshire so I went there. I do have a mate who did get a METV from London recently by providing similar information, he is not a Thaivisa member but I will ask him the details when I next see him and report back if it helps.

Thants Jay1980. That makes sense. Hull was always the most 'user friendly' and helpful UK consulate of choice before all postal applications had to go to London.

That means there are still no first hand reports of successful METV POSTAL applications to London for those of 'independent' means' with adequate income but not employed, not self-employed, nor receiving a pension. So yes I would like to know if your mate made a successful postal application to London with the same financial circumstances..

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donaldinho9    3

Hi Tim,

So if I didn't take the return/same bus back it's only an extra 100 baht (200 each way)? Where exactly do I get the bus at Central Bang Na? Do you know the departure schedule/how often they leave between 5-10am? If I don't take the same bus back, there are others frequently heading back to Central Bang Na from Poipet that I can hop on? With the $30 USD visa fee entering Cambodia do I need passport sized photos as well? Lots of questions sorry! Thanks for your help!!

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As long as you go early morning, the casino buses from Central Bang Na are frequent (maybe every 20 mins on average). It is not that easy to explain where the casino buses tend to congregate. Coming from Bangkok, you pass a pedestrian bridge and a gap where traffic on the Bangna-Trad highway can pull onto the frontage road. The buses that pass and just stop briefly usually do so near that spot. Buses originating from Central may park out on the main road, or may be in a nearby side soi that runs beside Central. If you see a big bus that does not look like a company employee bus, it will often be a casino bus. Ask.

Yes, an extra 100 baht if you take a different casino bus back (or an extra 130 baht if you take a minibus back). The return casino buses start around 1:00 pm or so. If you take, say, an 8:00 am bus outbound, you arrive at the border at around 11:00 am. Depending on luck, you can be in and out of Cambodia by about 12:30 pm. Ask where the casino buses leave from, look to see when one is leaving and ask if they have a spare seat (usually, they do). Grab something to eat if you have time. The return trip takes about 4 hours, typically, as they are in less of a hurry and tend to stop somewhere en route for people to eat/toilet break.

You need one visa photo (or, alternatively, they will waive the requirement for 100 baht).

Hi Tim,

Looking to leave Thursday morning. Just wondering if you have any more details on where we would get the casino bus from Central Bang Na? It just a seems a bit confusing/daunting not knowing exactly where the pick up location is and wasting time walking all around the surrounding area hoping to see a bus and that it's the right one...

Also, do enough people speak English at the border/are there a lot of casino buses there, where it would be easy enough to hop on one back to Central Bang Na? How would we get the same bus back/ do they give a stamp/bracelet/something to indicate that's your bus back? Do we pay for the round trip up front, or just 1-way fares each bus we get on?

Last question (!): do we need to bring new any documents with us besides the 1 passport photo, passport and $30 USD cash?

Thanks very much for your help!

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