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Smoke, Smog, Dust 2016-2017 Chiang Mai

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This evening the headman in our village announced that the government is asking for villagers to complete all agricultural burning by February 15. After that, fires will by monitored by satellite and the gov't will "take action" against communities that violate. Time will tell.

They will have no Problem to see the red belt as usual and as usual they will ignore it.

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Had to get a tube stuck down my throat through my nose, as I thought I might have had throat cancer (non smoker) but realize now that is the air here. Negative on any cancer but a swollen larynx or something. A guy at my condo went south for a week, and his coughing cleared up and started when returned a few days ago. He is packing his bags and breaking his lease. What a shame and we have to include all the fine particulate matter that comes from these crazy construction sites, asbestos, various fibers, concrete and metal dust etc etc. What the hell are we doing to this planet anyways?

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ID: 43   Posted (edited)

Had to get a tube stuck down my throat through my nose, as I thought I might have had throat cancer (non smoker) but realize now that is the air here. Negative on any cancer but a swollen larynx or something. A guy at my condo went south for a week, and his coughing cleared up and started when returned a few days ago. He is packing his bags and breaking his lease. What a shame and we have to include all the fine particulate matter that comes from these crazy construction sites, asbestos, various fibers, concrete and metal dust etc etc. What the hell are we doing to this planet anyways?

It's just the programmed by nature extinction process which has to happen if one kind brings the system out of balance but this leads to far. Don't worry men can not kill nature but the other way around it works.

Just join the burning never pick up a plastic bottle or be otherwise concerned this will only slowdown the extinction process and extend the suffering period for the future generations.

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Blueyeshk,

Ya probably right. <deleted>....I have great memories from Michigan of drinking the water we were swimming in as kids, all spring fed and pure.

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ID: 45   Posted (edited)

Let the burning begin!

Out for a walk tonight and the burning has started in earnest. Three fires in the Khuntan forest behind our village in NE Lamphun province, and numerous fires throughout the village proper. Our neighbours burn almost every night. I have no idea what they are gathering to burn so frequently? Same people do it all the time. The wife and I never burn, just compost. <head shake> Thais can't seem to self-regulate for the betterment of their country, and the government (present and previous) doesn't seem to have the will to regulate. No end to this problem any year soon, imho. dry.pngbeatdeadhorse.gif

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This evening the headman in our village announced that the government is asking for villagers to complete all agricultural burning by February 15. After that, fires will by monitored by satellite and the gov't will "take action" against communities that violate. Time will tell.

Ah-huh. Right. When buffalos fly methinks. coffee1.gif

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This is Doi Suthep from Chiang Mai university a few days ago. Though 3.6km away which compounds the haze. 2nd photo, post processed the same image to show what it ideally should look like. smile.png

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https://vimeo.com/151150793

Good video on the haze in Chiang Mai and the consequent health hazards.

Plenty of facts from well-qualified sources.

After this we can close the post no further explanation, arguing if it's bad, good or worse to health or in regards of reasons and solution needed!

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Heh heh.... in terms of Haze/Smog air pollution videos and the health effects, this would be THE BOMB wai2.gif Though the emphasis is more on China.

There is heckloads of info there. There are some disturbing scenes though, be warned.

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I also found the Northern Thailand haze video on youtube. Embedding it here for easy reference :

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ID: 53   Posted (edited)

Hey guys, by the way, air purifiers work. I think most of the folks have one or a couple here......but in case there are still some disbelievers, this is something that I recorded during the ending portion of the haze season here in Singapore. lol!

PS. One is a Samsung (Samsung AX40), 2 are China Air Purifiers (Midea KJ30FE and MFresh M8088A)

The 3 gadgets are air quality meters with laser particle counter modules.

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It's actually Super El Nino conditions right now, though the effects are felt mainly over Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines.

I'm not sure how it'd affect Thailand esp Northern Thailand. Some articles do point a certain effect for Central and NE Thailand.

Eg https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/326165

http://ethailand.com/business-news/droughts-predicted-for-2016/1306/

Authorities predict that Thailand is likely to encounter a drought crisis in 2016 which may be the worst recorded in the past 50 years.

Dr Seree Suparatit, Director of Climate Change and Disasters in Rangstit University, said that in 2016 the drought crisis is the most crucial impact from El Nino. Water levels from large reservoirs such as Chao Phraya river could be reduced by 40% in comparison to the previous year. This can affect water consumption in various industries, especially agriculture.

Might need these later! coffee1.gif

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Seems like Lampang and Chiang Mai are getting hit and situation's deteriorating day by day.

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Seems to no longer be an active site as the last couple of years it was regularly updated. None of the maps, including your link, has been updated since December 24/25, 2015. Hope they fix it as it was a good point of reference.

Couple of other Firemap locations:

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/firemap/

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/firemaps/firemap.2016011-2016020.2048x1024.jpg

This site you can get a Google Earth kml file to display - https://earthdata.nasa.gov/earth-observation-data/near-real-time/firms/active-fire-data

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PM2.5 levels are very high at the moment, 4 times above average, can someone explain this, skies look relativity clear today.

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PM2.5 levels are very high at the moment, 4 times above average, can someone explain this, skies look relativity clear today.

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Can't be bothered with explain and analyzing the horrible situation have to catch my flight to Indonesia see ya in May.

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So what is the situation now? We were thinking of going to Chiang Mai for a few days next week. If the pollution is bad already, we might as well give up. Please advise.

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