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Boatabike

Teacher Licensing, Culture Testing, TCT

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Boatabike    1

Hi upon my return to work next week I am being asked to supply copies of all the documents I supplied to get my work permit, copies of my work permit, visa, photo's etc and I am told I need to take an exam. I haven't been told what the exam is, or what to expect it to contain.

I have been working at the same school for nearly 2 years. Is this likely to be anything to do with a teacher’s license? If so any info on the exam and what to expect in it would be appreciated. I was hired as a teacher for conversation English, at my interview I made it quite clear that I was not qualified to teach grammar, which was no problem as that is taught only by the Thai teachers anyway. So the school was fully aware of what I could offer and what I couldn't. I am paid 24k a month which is low but then despite having a degree and a TEFL I was without experience. If I am required to take an exam, and it is a teacher’s license, I would not be wrong to be asking for a large pay rise (given that I pass) would I? This is not in Bangkok but Kanchanaburi where pay is rather low. Another point is if I am hired to teach conversation and the exam is based on a grammar teaching basis why would I be in need of taking it? It is the not having any info. On why they need the documents again or what the exam is for that creates my concern. If anyone can shed light on this situation I would be most grateful.

Thanks.

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Yes, this has been cropping up just recently- something about an "exam" that everyone must "pass" (soon!) without any real info yet about just What The **** They Are Talking About- probably mostly because the schools are still mostly out. I have heard some sort of rumbling about this indirectly from my school as well, though all teachers are already out and we have already had our WP's and everything processed this year. In other words, the Ministries have ALREADY decided we qualify, but now we don't.

The closest thing I've heard to detail comes from a post on another website, but it might be true: someone said they heard that all teachers without TEFL certs who've been teaching less than 3 years will be asked to pass *some* sort of exam on Thai culture. This is likely more accurate than anything we'll hear officially anytime soon.

What does this mean? God knows. Obviously some moron at the top feels that it will somehow clear out the majority of dodgy teachers (who have no work permits and are off the official radar entirely) to harass those of us who actually qualify for them, or even already have them. Predictions: the test will be completely inapplicable to non-TEFL teachers, but we'll have to take it anyway. The test will be full of largely inaccurate but very proper-sounding platitudes about what "should' be true in Thai culture, which we will bob our heads at blithely and get passed for. After all, are there ANY tests given by Thai institutions at ANY level which ANY one in Thailand can actually fail?

Cynically yours,

"Steven"

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Boatabike    1

Thanks for the response, if you or anyone else hears more about this can it be posted please. Now what about the request for all my documents again? Is this part of the exam situation or something else? It is not a problem as i have all they need, i just like to know why they need.

Thanks again.

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PeaceBlondie    48

boatabike, once 'they' - the Thai administrators or officials - get excited or get officious, they're likely to ask for all the documentation they can think of, just in case. But if you have a real bachelor's degree, and already have a work permit, you've worked there two years at low pay and they like you, and it's the correct phase of the moon, you should have nothing to worry about.

Indeed, it's a ridiculous time for Thailand, in more ways than one. I pity the good teachers without perfect paper credentials who are just barely hanging in there, who may have to quit and leave.

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Loaded    2,101
I am told I need to take an exam. I haven't been told what the exam is, or what to expect it to contain.

Remember nobody fails tests in Thailand. This is just a bit game so that people who wear white jackets with lots of gold braid gain face.

Can you imagine a culture test administered by Thais about themselves? It will be the biggest piece of self-deception ever created.

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Whitey    0

I have heard rumors about the new requirements but I am not sure what they are. I talk to the head of another department at my school when I was at Carrefour a couple of weeks ago and she is very concerned about the new requirements and her ability to recruit teachers next year. That is about all I know about the requirements.

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Casanundra    1

I heard about this test from a few pals in the English teaching profession and they have all been told to attend a one day Thai cultural awareness training session... which got me wondering if a farang cultural awareness training session to help them understand the foreigners they employ better would also be on the cards as well... but I doubt it.

All that's needed now is for all the foreign teachers to stand at the front of the school and sing the Thai national anthem in Thai from memory too and then a true feeling of warmth and acceptance will be had by all.

What's next... a pledge of allegience to the constitution?

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What's next... a pledge of allegience to the constitution?

Yes that and two years of National Service.

Yep, and on scouting day all teachers must now wear brown shorts.

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Whitey    0

Actually, I foresee scout short on scout day in my future. I don't know why, but when I read it, I thought that sounds like something my admin would think up.

At our school's mother's day ceremony, all the dignitaries, mothers and thai teachers went under the tent. Foreign teachers were asked to sit out under the hot sun with the students.

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At our school's mother's day ceremony, all the dignitaries, mothers and thai teachers went under the tent. Foreign teachers were asked to sit out under the hot sun with the students.

Thais must be confused with farang. Think about it, we pay large amounts of money to go to hot countries, strip off our clothes and lay in the sun trying to become black. Then when the Thais considerately provide us the opportunity to lay in the sun for free, we complain.

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Boatabike    1

At our school's mother's day ceremony, all the dignitaries, mothers and thai teachers went under the tent. Foreign teachers were asked to sit out under the hot sun with the students.

Thais must be confused with farang. Think about it, we pay large amounts of money to go to hot countries, strip off our clothes and lay in the sun trying to become black. Then when the Thais considerately provide us the opportunity to lay in the sun for free, we complain.

This is true but given the choice I wouldn't sun bathe in a tie, shirt, black trousers and shoes!

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otherstuff1957    1,569

Actually they do: During the Wai Kru Day ceremony at my school they told us how to line up:

1. Second Generation American of British ancestry.

2. Englishman.

3. First Generation American of non-European ancestry.

4. 2 Filipinos

5. 6 Chinese teachers.

:o

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Actually they do: During the Wai Kru Day ceremony at my school they told us how to line up:

1. Second Generation American of British ancestry.

2. Englishman.

3. First Generation American of non-European ancestry.

4. 2 Filipinos

5. 6 Chinese teachers.

:o

Is that so that the yanks can throw flowers at the feet of the Englishmen?

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