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Thai Months & Days

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that's really diffcult!! how long do you normally need to be able to read a newspaper??? i guess at least 10 years, right??

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sometimes you find things funny that you have been going through all your life.

I didin't notice it either before.

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that's really diffcult!! how long do you normally need to be able to read a newspaper??? i guess at least 10 years, right??

That depends on the newspaper! I can read Mathichon or Post Today, but after 20 years I still cannot read Thai Rath.

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ID: 24   Posted (edited)

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And i was very worried i dont know language and all

I was searching for some other forum but i got this And i Register in this forum ....

And Really i am very glad this forum information Helping me lot and special thanks for Rikker

Thanks Rikker

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Punuruthan

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ID: 25   Posted (edited)

I'm a little late to this forum. A newbie! I'd like to add my two cents regarding days and months in Thai.

Like many Thai loanwords from other languages, Mithuna (มิถุนายน) and other months of the year are in fact Sanskrit. (Thais have learned that Thai words, especially proper nouns with fancy spellings, are either Pali or Sanskrit. But every Thai seems to forget that.)

Sanskrit is the language of Veda (เวท or เวทศาสตร์), the sacred knowledge, upon which Thai language and culture is based. Month names in Thai are inherently the Sideral zodiac signs (rasi ราศี) in Hindu's Vedic astrology, which is quite different from the Tropical astrology that most Westerners are familiar with. (But that's another topic all together in a future forum, if anyone is interested. Or Ayurveda or อายุรเวท that Thai yoga and massage derives from. lol).

Meṣa = April

Vṛṣabha = May Mithuna = June

Karkaṭa = July

Siṃha = August Kanyā = September Tulā = October Vṛścika = November Dhanus = Decembrer Makara = January Kumbha = February Mīna = March (Sorry, cannot fix the spacing here!)

You also guess correctly that days of the week in Thai are also the names of planets in Sanskrit (and in the Vedic system).

Surya = Sunday

Chandra = Monday

Mangala = Tuesday (in Thai, it's Ung-kaan)

Budha = Wednesday (Budha means intelligence in Sanskrit, not to be confused with the similarly written word "Buddha" as in Buddhism)

Brishaspati = Thursday (in Thai, it's P'-rue-hud-s'-b-aww-dee)

Shukra = Friday

Shani = Saturday (in Thai, it's Sa-ao)

Finally, Namaskar, a Sanskrit word that Thais use to greet only Buddhist monks.

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BTW, you already know that Sunday is Ah-tid.

The word อาทิตย์ comes from Aditi who is, according the the Vedas, the Mother of all gods, including Surya and six others (of the week).

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Well I knew the thing about the days and the planets, but I have not been able to dig up any good, efficient, short mnemonic schemes to easily remember the Thai names of the Months, the Days, and maybe the rules of the Thai clock.

Can someone share a good method to learn the names of Thai months and days, hopefully within 15 minutes, in a way that will keep them fixed in ones old brain? --- Maybe a very short story, or a lurid limerick that might make our Thai girlfriends blush?

Thanks!!

(If you have one, please don't delay in posting it. The days are passing over here, quickly.)

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Did this thread come to an abrupt end, or did it go somewhere else?

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Hey, if you're happy to be on my mailing list, I'm currently sending out a monthly newsletter almost exclusively devoted to remembering the names of the months in Thai (whether you can read Thai or not). Please PM with your email address (or fill out the contact form) and I'll add you, plus send you all the months up till now.

Here's the one for January:

January is MOCKARAA-COM มกราคม

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After the expensive month of Christmas presents and New Year partying, all one can usually afford to eat in January is MACARONI.

(The -com or -yon endings refer to whether the month as 31 or 30 days respectively, so it's not something one needs to put any effort into remembering.)

Okay, so this mnemonic is a bit imprecise I admit. But I chose this to illustrate a point: even a convoluted suggestion is usually enough to help you remember something... if it's bizarre enough!

See if you still remember this tomorrow and next week...

As I said, you might not get "mockaraa-com" precisely. It might have been better to try a mnemonic involving "mocha" (e.g. my New Year's Resolution is to reduce my caffeine intake by drinking mocha
instead of coffee).

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Important: Pronounce "ck" the same way as the "k" in "sky" - the air is kept inside your mouth, not expelled as a puff. mouth.jpg

The word for January consists of two syllables:
มก and รา. The first syllable has the invisible vowel "o" ("mock"). It's difficult for Thais to run these two syllables together, so they add the spacer sound "a" as a bridge. That's why you get "mock-a-raa" (and not "mokraa").

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(Can you read the modern fonts? I cover these in the workshop, but I can also send you a handout that shows you how to do it easily.)

3 มกรา มาดู proud ขวัญเวียง ... ฟรี (mockaraa maa doo ... cwan wiyang ... free!)
3 Jan come look .. cwanwiyang ... free!


ขวัญเวียง is just the name of the moobaan, but it's an interesting name.

ขวัญ means "the spirit inside you" (possibly the same as "soul"?). So ของขวัญ is a (nice) thing for your soul, or a "gift".

เวียง means a walled city, like the old city in Chiang Mai. And a moobaan is, after all, a private, protected area for your soul (or peace-of-mind).

Nice name...!

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August is SING-HAA-COM สิงหาคม

The Lion King is a great musical. The Lion King is a great singer. Leos are born in August (mostly)!

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ID: 32   Posted (edited)

The days are indeed from the planets which can be seen from Earth with the bare eye, just as you surmised.

Moonday วันจันทร์, Marsday วันอังคาร (♂), Mercuryday วันพุธ (☿), Jupiterday วันพฤหัสบดี (♃), Venusday วันศุกร์ (♀), Saturnday วันเสาร์ (♄), Sunday วันอาทิตย์.

They follow the same pattern as in the Roman calendar, now whether this is because they were influenced by it, or because the Roman calendar follows an older Indo-European tradition which means the Thais got their calendar with Indic influences, I do not know. Good question.

Checked this out further. It appears that the spread of the 7 day week started with Babylonia. The number 7 was sacred to them, and there are also 7 celestial bodies that can be seen with the naked eye. This Babylonian concept spread with the Jews and onto Christianity and then on with Roman culture - in 321, a Roman emperor decreed the 7 day week as law.

It became known to China and Japan around 600 AD.

So you have not heard about the forthcoming European Community legislation which will decimalise the week and the year? 10 days in the week with a 3 day weekend (sadly not until 2009); All months are to have 30 days and only 10 months in the year. They are working on the finer details now - eg. how old you have to be to drink and drive (n.b. not simultaneously) and at what age one qualifies for a state pension. It will make us all get older quicker which is a good reason to be in Thailand. On second thoughts, we are already more than 500 years older here - better to go to China where they do not intend to adopt this system for another 600 years (its not clear whether that means years under the present system or the new one). I guess that's pretty academic anyway.

I don't think that plan to decimalise the week is going to fly. The French tried that as part of their reforms of 1789 and couldn't make it stick.

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All the months now on one page.

There is now a series of articles on my website for learning and remembering the months. Check it out! wai2.gif

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Thai language is one of difficult to use if you don't understand principle of language use such as:

Colors of the seven day

Sunday (วันอาทิตย์) = red (สีแดง)

Monday (วันจันทร์) = yellow (สีเหลือง)

Tuesday (วันอังคาร) = pink (สีชมพู)

Wednesday (วันพุธ) = green (สีเขียว)

Thursday (วันพฤหัสบดี) = orange (สีส้ม)

Friday (วันศุกร์) = blue (สีฟ้า)

Saturday (วันเสาร์) = violet (สีม่วง)

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