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Utley

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Olympus OM-D E-M1 with a M.Zuiko Lens: 25mm F1.8

ISO 100; f stop 1.8 shot in raw format


Notice the green tinge on the right side of the young lady's neck. What causes that and more importantly how do I remove it?


I initially process the raw with Corel Aftershot 2 and convert to a Tif; I then make adjustments as needed with Corel Paintshop Pro; then process the adjusted Tif through Neat Image to get rid of any digital noise; then FaceFilter to add makeup; then Paintshop Pro again for final touch up and to convert the Tif to a Jpeg.


I am stumped as to why the tint occurred (first time today), how to get rid of it and how to avoid it in the future. Any and all comments will be appreciated.


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Why are people downloading this photo? I was under the impression that this particular forum was for evaluating photos, offering suggestions and responding to questions. Downloading this copyrighted photo is rather underhanded to say the least.

MODERATOR: How do I put a stop to the downloads?

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I'm sure somebody more clever than me will come along with a professional answer, but I would guess the green tinge on the ladies neck is reflection from the green background.

The subject is too close to the background. This is giving unwanted details of the background and shadows that don't really help the composition of the picture.

Sometimes people download photos to modify and enhance then post back to show what could be done. Easier than trying to explain in writing.

If you are concerned about ownership of your photos, you could watermark them before posting.

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I agree, a reflection off the background; plus shadows from the subject and the chair from being close to the background. The photo overall looks heavily processed and over-saturated; which is maybe the effect you were after?

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I'm sure somebody more clever than me will come along with a professional answer, but I would guess the green tinge on the ladies neck is reflection from the green background.

The subject is too close to the background. This is giving unwanted details of the background and shadows that don't really help the composition of the picture.

Sometimes people download photos to modify and enhance then post back to show what could be done. Easier than trying to explain in writing.

If you are concerned about ownership of your photos, you could watermark them before posting.

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Thank you for your reply; I too considered that perhaps the subject was too close to the background. That's one modification I will make at my next photo shoot.

I am not all that concerned about the ownership of the photo; It's just that I don't want some scumbag beating off to this young lady's photo. She is a very warm but shy village girl.

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I agree, a reflection off the background; plus shadows from the subject and the chair from being close to the background. The photo overall looks heavily processed and over-saturated; which is maybe the effect you were after?

Reflection from the background - got it.

You really think the photo looks heavily processed and over saturated? Except for the makeup, the end product looks pretty close to the original except for some facial flaws removed. I didn't touch the exposure, tone, white balance or any other enhancement on this photo.

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Why are people downloading this photo? I was under the impression that this particular forum was for evaluating photos, offering suggestions and responding to questions. Downloading this copyrighted photo is rather underhanded to say the least.

MODERATOR: How do I put a stop to the downloads?

Download count that you see simply means a person has clicked on the image for a windowed view of it. Doesn't mean someone is downloading and saving it to their computer. Also, any image that will show on a browser is downloaded and put in browser cache automatically. Basically any image you can see on a browser has to be downloaded in order to display it. Nothing underhanded going on.

And as mentioned, the green on the neck is reflection from the background.

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Why are people downloading this photo? I was under the impression that this particular forum was for evaluating photos, offering suggestions and responding to questions. Downloading this copyrighted photo is rather underhanded to say the least.

MODERATOR: How do I put a stop to the downloads?

Download count that you see simply means a person has clicked on the image for a windowed view of it. Doesn't mean someone is downloading and saving it to their computer. Also, any image that will show on a browser is downloaded and put in browser cache automatically. Basically any image you can see on a browser has to be downloaded in order to display it. Nothing underhanded going on.

And as mentioned, the green on the neck is reflection from the background.

Thank you.

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I agree, a reflection off the background; plus shadows from the subject and the chair from being close to the background. The photo overall looks heavily processed and over-saturated; which is maybe the effect you were after?

Reflection from the background - got it.

You really think the photo looks heavily processed and over saturated? Except for the makeup, the end product looks pretty close to the original except for some facial flaws removed. I didn't touch the exposure, tone, white balance or any other enhancement on this photo.

Just my impression. The bright green background, plus the green jacket, probably creates the saturated look, and the processing on the face rather stands out. The softening of the face creates a disconnect with the toes in particular (which are sharp), creating an impression that your focus point was on the toes rather than on the subject's face (which I assume it wasn't); so my eyes are drawn away from the subject's face.

Perhaps try with a less garish background, if you have access to one. Place the subject away from the background to avoid shadows and hopefully blur out the background to an extent. And apply make-up to the subject so you don't have to process her face?

The E-M1 has quite bold colours and I find it can be useful to desaturate a little to achieve a more natural look. Also, if you do anything to reduce noise, then you usually have to sharpen the image afterwards.

As for removing the green tinge, very difficult unless you know a Photoshop whizz (I don't!). Perhaps convert this image to black and white, could look nice?

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I agree, a reflection off the background; plus shadows from the subject and the chair from being close to the background. The photo overall looks heavily processed and over-saturated; which is maybe the effect you were after?

Reflection from the background - got it.

You really think the photo looks heavily processed and over saturated? Except for the makeup, the end product looks pretty close to the original except for some facial flaws removed. I didn't touch the exposure, tone, white balance or any other enhancement on this photo.

Just my impression. The bright green background, plus the green jacket, probably creates the saturated look, and the processing on the face rather stands out. The softening of the face creates a disconnect with the toes in particular (which are sharp), creating an impression that your focus point was on the toes rather than on the subject's face (which I assume it wasn't); so my eyes are drawn away from the subject's face.

Perhaps try with a less garish background, if you have access to one. Place the subject away from the background to avoid shadows and hopefully blur out the background to an extent. And apply make-up to the subject so you don't have to process her face?

The E-M1 has quite bold colours and I find it can be useful to desaturate a little to achieve a more natural look. Also, if you do anything to reduce noise, then you usually have to sharpen the image afterwards.

As for removing the green tinge, very difficult unless you know a Photoshop whizz (I don't!). Perhaps convert this image to black and white, could look nice?

Thank you, I appreciate your comments. The green background can be a little overwhelming. I'll try to tone it down a bit. Any color options you can recommend for black & white. I was surprised that there was a wide array of filter options.

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The green reflected tinge is everywhere. Possibly less intense lighting, as well as further from the background?

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Just a thought, if I don't want a image used without my say, (obviously once its on the net you can not stop others also using it on the net)

I resize the photo to something really low resolution before I upload it, then it still looks ok on a PC but is useless for downloading & printing.....

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I agree, a reflection off the background; plus shadows from the subject and the chair from being close to the background. The photo overall looks heavily processed and over-saturated; which is maybe the effect you were after?

Reflection from the background - got it.

You really think the photo looks heavily processed and over saturated? Except for the makeup, the end product looks pretty close to the original except for some facial flaws removed. I didn't touch the exposure, tone, white balance or any other enhancement on this photo.

Just my impression. The bright green background, plus the green jacket, probably creates the saturated look, and the processing on the face rather stands out. The softening of the face creates a disconnect with the toes in particular (which are sharp), creating an impression that your focus point was on the toes rather than on the subject's face (which I assume it wasn't); so my eyes are drawn away from the subject's face.

Perhaps try with a less garish background, if you have access to one. Place the subject away from the background to avoid shadows and hopefully blur out the background to an extent. And apply make-up to the subject so you don't have to process her face?

The E-M1 has quite bold colours and I find it can be useful to desaturate a little to achieve a more natural look. Also, if you do anything to reduce noise, then you usually have to sharpen the image afterwards.

As for removing the green tinge, very difficult unless you know a Photoshop whizz (I don't!). Perhaps convert this image to black and white, could look nice?

Thank you, I appreciate your comments. The green background can be a little overwhelming. I'll try to tone it down a bit. Any color options you can recommend for black & white. I was surprised that there was a wide array of filter options.

I use Silver Efex Pro from Nik Software. https://www.google.com/nikcollection/

Very powerful and loads of presets to help you choose the best look.

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Just a thought, if I don't want a image used without my say, (obviously once its on the net you can not stop others also using it on the net)

I resize the photo to something really low resolution before I upload it, then it still looks ok on a PC but is useless for downloading & printing.....

Good point - thank you.

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The new and improved version incorporating your many helpful suggestions - thank you all.

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