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6 hours ago, muzmurray said:

LOL, number 3 on the rear of the card stipulates that the holder is not allowed to leave the area in which the card was issued !!

 

Even less reason to get one.

Obviously remains of its use for foreign workers (Myanmar etc.) who often do not have another form of ID when in Thailand.

Fortunately I am not forced to use it :biggrin:

Still have a passport.

 

No reason not to get one.

 

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I can also confirm that I obtained the pink foreigner ID card and also hold a yellow house reg book. I'm not a permanent resident but rather on non-B visa and work permit. I received mine in Chiang Mai. In place of an expiry date, mine says valid for life.

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15 minutes ago, SpoliaOpima said:

I can also confirm that I obtained the pink foreigner ID card and also hold a yellow house reg book. I'm not a permanent resident but rather on non-B visa and work permit. I received mine in Chiang Mai. In place of an expiry date, mine says valid for life.

You've told us you are at least sixty, for it to say "valid for life".

It has exactly the same criteria for this as the Thai ID card. (The English translation on the Thai ID says "lifelong")

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1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

You've told us you are at least sixty, for it to say "valid for life".

It has exactly the same criteria for this as the Thai ID card. (The English translation on the Thai ID says "lifelong")

 

That explains it, as I'm indeed 60+. Didn't realize that made a difference; glad it does.

 

The Thai reads ตลอดชีวิด under the heading วันบัตรหมดอายุ, which I interpret, together, simply as valid for life. Says a bit more than just 'lifelong' but YMMV.  

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13 minutes ago, SpoliaOpima said:

 

That explains it, as I'm indeed 60+. Didn't realize that made a difference; glad it does.

 

The Thai reads ตลอดชีวิด under the heading วันบัตรหมดอายุ, which I interpret, together, simply as valid for life. Says a bit more than just 'lifelong' but YMMV.  

Yes, I forgot that the pink ID is only in Thai, whereas the Thai ID is Thai & English, a bit weird really!

I was quoting my father in-law's card, and yes the Thai says the same "ตลอดชีวิด" and underneath says "lifelong".

 

edit: I was just looking up the meaning of "YMMV". I take it you used it in the sense of "your meaning may vary", as opposed to "you make me vomit". Ha ha, don't worry I think I understood you meant the first option, but the abbrevation does have two completely different meanings!

 

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11 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Yes, I forgot that the pink ID is only in Thai, whereas the Thai ID is Thai & English, a bit weird really!

I was quoting my father in-law's card, and yes the Thai says the same "ตลอดชีวิด" and underneath says "lifelong".

 

edit: I was just looking up the meaning of "YMMV". I take it you used it in the sense of "your meaning may vary", as opposed to "you make me vomit". Ha ha, don't worry I think I understood you meant the first option, but the abbrevation does have two completely different meanings!

 

 

Now I understand you were referring to an actual English phrase appearing on the Thai ID card. I thought you were correcting my interpretation of the Thai (which is fair game of course!).

 

Definitely not 'vomit'! Actually 'your mileage may vary', more or less the same as 'your meaning may vary'.

 

Appreciated the info on age and expiration. Reminds me of when I applied for a 10-year tourist visa for India a few weeks ago. The staffer who took my application at CKGS, the visa processing agency, asked me 'are you sure you'll still be going to India 10 years from now?'

 

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muzmurray

 

Where's that "number 3" on the back of the card?  Don't see one on mine.

 

However, I do note what appears to be a serial number in the white block to the lower 

left, it shows:  B space, then 7 digits, space, 2

 

There is a 3 as the third digit within the 7 digits.

 

Mac

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For the OP or those having difficulties with their Amphurs.

 

The information is confirmed in the updated Civil Registration Act 2008 (2)

 

Section 21. Section 38 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced by the following:
 
“Section 38. The district or local registrar shall issue a household registration for persons without Thai nationality having been permitted to stay temporarily and those having been giving leniency for temporary residence in the Thai Kingdom as a special case in accordance with law on immigration and the declaration of the Cabinet and their children born within the Thai Kingdom. In a case of permission of temporary residence overdue, the registrar shall immediately dispose of such persons. The Director of Central Registration shall make profile registration for persons without Thai nationality besides those under paragraph one in accordance with the declaration of the Cabinet.

 

Section 4. Paragraph two of Section 6 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced be the following:
 
“The provision in paragraph one is allowed to use for making a copy or making a copy and being certified true copy of identification card and other civil registration document in accordance with this Act for persons without Thai nationality.”

 

“The Ministerial Regulation in paragraph one may set rates of fees which is not excessive in the end of this Act.”

Rates of Fees _________________
 
(1) Identification card for persons without  Thai nationality under Section 5 -

-For the first time or renewing each copy 100 baht

- For losing or being ruined each copy 100 baht

- For changing in the details each copy 100 baht

(2) A copy or a copy with certification of a true copy  of registration or identification card under Section 6 each copy 100 baht

(3) A copy or a copy with certification of a true copy  of civil registration under Section 14 (1) each copy 100 baht

(4) Birth report under Section 18 paragraph three; Death report under Section 21 paragraph four or Notice of change of address under Section 30  paragraph two and paragraph four each copy 100 baht

(5) A copy of a household registration  under Section 39 paragraph two each copy 100 baht

 

 

Thai Civil Registration Act (2551) 2008..pdf

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Has been discussed elsewhere in the forum.

Fortunately I have more ID than this :biggrin:

Very likely these points were made for foreign workers.

I don't care. Such card does not affect the written rules for foreigners about moving/reporting.

 

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27 minutes ago, SpoliaOpima said:

Appreciated the info on age and expiration. Reminds me of when I applied for a 10-year tourist visa for India a few weeks ago. The staffer who took my application at CKGS, the visa processing agency, asked me 'are you sure you'll still be going to India 10 years from now?'

 

Ha ha! Was that an attempt at humour by the staff, or a serious question?

Perhaps it was based on their own life expectation. I see acccrding to wiki, India has a life expectancy of 68. If it was a Thai asking, their life expectancy is 75. I'm a Brit so I could live to be 81, but I see Americans can only expect to get to 79.

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Here's a post from the earlier thread on the card.  I also remember a different translation of the rear of the card a bit later but I just can't find it now. 

 

Mac

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/898085-id-card-for-farangs/?page=7

24 May 2016

A friend did this translation:

OFFICE OF CENTRAL REGISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION MININISTRY OF INTERIOR
INSTRUCTION FOR HOLDER IDENTIFICATION
1.This card is not ID.card
2.To carry all times for review
3.Do not allow the name on the card to leave the issue area unless those who have certificate of alien registration or who have allow writing letter.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sure makes it sound more those issued to foreign workers from Burma, Laos, Cambodia, etc.
Mac

 

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On 10/3/2016 at 11:04 AM, bluesofa said:

I don't know if you have a Thai speaker to help you, if so you could try phoning:
Bora (Bureau Of Registration Administration) on 1567, also 02-791-7000
I got my wife to check with them about requirements for the card. When she queried some details, they gave her a phone number of a public(?) lawyer in Bangkok who gave her very precise information over the phone for free, even contradicting some erroneous details from Bora (unfortunately I didn’t keep that number).

 

If you’re still struggling there’s always the Office Of The Ombudsman on 1676, also 02-141-9100
I see a couple of TV members posted here that they used them when refused application for the Pink ID card. On one occasion it took 24 hours and the amphur contacted the applicant directly in order to apply again for the card  -  successfully.

 

So you need a Thai speaking person to call The Bureau of Registraton  Administration (English)

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27 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

So you need a Thai speaking person to call The Bureau of Registraton  Administration (English)

 

I wrote ithe name in English as it's an English language forum.

Just from experience, even if they do speak English at BORA, I've always found it easier to get a Thai to speak to them as quite often (not always though) it does tend to lose some important details when discussed in English.

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