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21 minutes ago, Grouse said:

This looks plausible

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/brussels-to-hit-britain-with-2bn-fraud-claim-gz7t6wk9n?CMP=TNLEmail_118918_1777741

 

I have no confidence in UK Border controls or customs and excise

 

As always, underfunded and slow to implement appropriate systems

Hasn't this been discussed in another thread (or earlier in this thread)?

 

I can't read the article as its behind a pay-wall, but assume its the same 'story'?

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41 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Hasn't this been discussed in another thread (or earlier in this thread)?

 

I can't read the article as its behind a pay-wall, but assume its the same 'story'?

You can get a couple of articles free I believe.

 

The issue is that apparantly the Chinese see the U.K. as the soft underbelly of the EU which lets them bring in to Europe huge quantities of apparel and shoes at a massive undervalue and defrauding mainland EU of billions in duty and VAT

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20 minutes ago, Grouse said:

You can get a couple of articles free I believe.

 

The issue is that apparantly the Chinese see the U.K. as the soft underbelly of the EU which lets them bring in to Europe huge quantities of apparel and shoes at a massive undervalue and defrauding mainland EU of billions in duty and VAT

The UK isn't known as being the 'soft underbelly' of the EU - so is the article saying that UK customs officers are fraudulently (and illegally) allowing in huge quantities of etc. etc.?

 

Possible I suppose, but wouldn't the Chinese be better off using an EU country known to be corrupt?

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Just now, dick dasterdly said:

The UK isn't known as being the 'soft underbelly' of the EU - so is the article saying that UK customs officers are fraudulently (and illegally) allowing in huge quantities of etc. etc.?

 

Possible I suppose, but wouldn't the Chinese be better off using an EU country known to be corrupt?

Background

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39206513

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1 minute ago, rockingrobin said:

Which brings me back to why didn't the Chinese criminal gangs use other (more obviously corrupt) countries as the 'soft target' to bring in  clothes/shoes etc.?

 

Or is the EU just trying to come up with another reason to claim that the UK will have to pay a lot of money to leave the EU?

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Just now, dick dasterdly said:

Which brings me back to why didn't the Chinese criminal gangs use other (more obviously corrupt) countries as the 'soft target' to bring in  clothes/shoes etc.?

 

Or is the EU just trying to come up with another reason to claim that the UK will have to pay a lot of money to leave the EU?

The Brussels-based agency accused Britain of turning a blind eye to Chinese scammers when several other EU member states had taken firm action '

 

http://www.dw.com/en/britain-owes-eu-billions-due-to-customs-fraud/a-37853852

https://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2017/march/uk-threatened-with-eu-bill-over-chinese-customs-fraud/

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12 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

The Brussels-based agency accused Britain of turning a blind eye to Chinese scammers when several other EU member states had taken firm action '

 

http://www.dw.com/en/britain-owes-eu-billions-due-to-customs-fraud/a-37853852

https://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2017/march/uk-threatened-with-eu-bill-over-chinese-customs-fraud/

Britain acted as the ringleader in blocking attempts to regulate cheap Chinese steel entering Europe, despite warnings that the continent’s steel industry was in crisis, the European Steel Association (Eurofer) has said.

The Labour MP Stephen Kinnock, whose Aberavon constituency includes the Port Talbot plant, accused the government of being “in hock to China” and said senior figures at the company had expressed frustration at the lack of action from ministers to support the steel industry.

The attempts by the European commission and other member states to crack down on China dumping cheap steel on European markets contradicts the assertion by the Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, and other Brexit campaigners that the EU has been a major factor in the decline of Britain’s steel industry.

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1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

The UK isn't known as being the 'soft underbelly' of the EU - so is the article saying that UK customs officers are fraudulently (and illegally) allowing in huge quantities of etc. etc.?

 

Possible I suppose, but wouldn't the Chinese be better off using an EU country known to be corrupt?

Apparantly we're insufficiently diligent. When you export stuff, it's not too hard to put an undervalue on the "invoice for customs purposes". If Borders UK is anything to go by, there probably aren't many "white caucasians" doing this sort of work. Seems possible to me

 

You think the UK is not corrupt? Are you being paid?

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3 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Hasn't this been discussed in another thread (or earlier in this thread)?

 

I can't read the article as its behind a pay-wall, but assume its the same 'story'?

Yes it was, I brought it up on 6th April Post No 4352. They are not saying UK customs are corrupt but negligent.

 

OLAF accuses HMRC of failing to use a risk analysis system used by other European customs departments to detect fraud, despite it having raised the issue at four separate bilateral meetings with senior UK tax officials in recent years.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39502316

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4 hours ago, nontabury said:

As quoted by the Mirror.

We all know what Farage was trying to say but when all else fails, shoot the messenger.

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7 hours ago, nontabury said:

Farage never said he would not accept the result if they lost. I have already posted a video,showing that he has denied doing so.

 

Macron the so called ex-banker,representing the political establishment,who I agree will more than likely win in two weeks time.

 

Can I suggest that you watch the video again at 6 and a half minutes. As Gina Miller another member of the financial establishment, and prominent Remoaner states very clearly (unusually for her) that the final decision when the negotiations are completed, 

" Should NOT be decided democratically by the electorate"  which I beleive you have been arguing for. Preferring instead for that decision to be taken by the establishment.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, pitrevie said:

Farage warns PM over ‘unfinished business’ if Remain narrowly wins ‘unfair’ EU referendum

May 17th Pro Brexit Daily Express

 

Much the same as he said to the Mirror which he is now claiming didn't mean what it meant.

I watched an interview with Farage on Sky TV just before the referendum result was called, the voting was closed and the counting had begun. He conceded that they had narrowly lost ... this information was coming from various sources including friends in the City. He then went on to say that the fight would continue, as a narrow victory of say 52-48 is not a sufficient mandate to close the question. He actually said that! 

 

Of course his tune changed as soon as the result was known. So please, no one on here should engaged in revisionist history and try to suggest that he either did not say this or somehow meant something else. That is just plain lies.

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11 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Yes it was, I brought it up on 6th April Post No 4352. They are not saying UK customs are corrupt but negligent.

 

OLAF accuses HMRC of failing to use a risk analysis system used by other European customs departments to detect fraud, despite it having raised the issue at four separate bilateral meetings with senior UK tax officials in recent years.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39502316

The question is why are they failing to use the system? Maybe because it brings traffic to their ports and fattens their wallets? Failing to enforce laws because of the profit motive sounds like corruption to me.

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2 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

The question is why are they failing to use the system? Maybe because it brings traffic to their ports and fattens their wallets? Failing to enforce laws because of the profit motive sounds like corruption to me.

If you pay people peanuts, this is what happens

 

They should be on some kind of results based bonus scheme

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1 minute ago, Grouse said:

If you pay people peanuts, this is what happens

 

They should be on some kind of results based bonus scheme

This is not down to the fault of the workers. Management, whoever that may be, has failed to implement the risk analysis system. 

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