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Khun Han    3,959
51 minutes ago, Naam said:

people who travel a lot within continental Europe might disagree.

 

Yes, Abdelhamid Abaaoud is one of them.

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pitrevie    1,847
19 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Yes, Abdelhamid Abaaoud is one of them.


Hasib Hussain, Mohammad Sidique Khan, Germaine Lindsay, Shehzad Tanweer were the ones who were responsible for the London bombings and they never had to cross any borders. 

 

 All of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally. 

 

One man crosses an internal border and you want to institute a siege mentality.

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Khun Han    3,959
1 hour ago, Naam said:
8 hours ago, sandyf said:

Schengen is an EU concept and we are all aware that the EU is the root of all evil.

 

I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly the root of a lot of hare-brained and damaging schemes such as Schengen.

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pitrevie    1,847
6 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly the root of a lot of hare-brained and damaging schemes such as Schengen.

Yeah and guess what, the vast majority of Europeans would disagree with you along with the vast number of tourists that travel throughout Europe every year. Some hare brained scheme. 

Just one example for you from people who actually live there as opposed to someone who has nothing good to say about the EU.

FRANKFURT, GERMANY — 

Many Germans enjoying the weekend open-air market in Frankfurt city center Saturday expressed support for their government’s policy of trying to keep borders open inside the Schengen zone despite security threats. Most, however, stated the need to strengthen controls on the outer borders for those entering the zone.

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pitrevie    1,847
On 25/03/2017 at 7:36 PM, Grouse said:

Douglas Carswell just quit UKIP. I think they now have zero MPs? Hasn't that nasty Aaron Banks also left UKIP? Hilarious!

Farage the man who has failed 7 times to get into Parliament says that Carswell should now resign as an MP and fight a by-election. I agree and I hope Farage stands against him that should make it 8 times failed to get into Parliament.

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SheungWan    2,829
2 hours ago, pitrevie said:

Farage the man who has failed 7 times to get into Parliament says that Carswell should now resign as an MP and fight a by-election. I agree and I hope Farage stands against him that should make it 8 times failed to get into Parliament.

For sure Farage could win a by-election of UK expats in Pattaya. :omfg:

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mommysboy    1,314
3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Set out plan for what's left of Britain ... after Scotland and NI have left?

 

The way things will shape up is that Brexit will only happen if TM comes back to Parliament with a credible deal, which in order to be that must include retention of the single market. Labour has now already said this.  Tories have a narrow majority, the people did not vote for hard Brexit. MPs in Tory party will feel they can safely reject a bad deal without incurring the wrath of their Brexit voters.

 

So in summary, it will be soft Brexit or no Brexit.  So most arguments about borders, trade, etc will be moot points.

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Khun Han    3,959
13 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

 

The way things will shape up is that Brexit will only happen if TM comes back to Parliament with a credible deal, which in order to be that must include retention of the single market. Labour has now already said this.  Tories have a narrow majority, the people did not vote for hard Brexit. MPs in Tory party will feel they can safely reject a bad deal without incurring the wrath of their Brexit voters.

 

So in summary, it will be soft Brexit or no Brexit.  So most arguments about borders, trade, etc will be moot points.

 

PM May has stated many times that restriction of free movement is non-negotiable, and has also stated that we won't be retaining membership of the single market.

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mommysboy    1,314
1 minute ago, Khun Han said:

 

PM May has stated many times that restriction of free movement is non-negotiable, and has also stated that we won't be retaining membership of the single market.

PM May is not Parliament, or the electorate.

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shanesox    132
PM May is not Parliament, or the electorate.

Yeah the electorate made its decision June '16. The only ones wanting to define what "leave the EU" meant on the ballot paper are the hard core Europhile losers !


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mommysboy    1,314
1 minute ago, shanesox said:


Yeah the electorate made its decision June '16. The only ones wanting to define what "leave the EU" meant on the ballot paper are the hard core Europhile losers !


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Plain wrong.

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Khun Han    3,959
13 minutes ago, shanesox said:


Yeah the electorate made its decision June '16. The only ones wanting to define what "leave the EU" meant on the ballot paper are the hard core Europhile losers !


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Correct.

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