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6 hours ago, Basil B said:

Who is doing the leaking???

 

Do not forget we have an election in 36 days.

 

Brussels trying to scare the British electorate to vote against the Tory's and a hard brexit or Tory's trying to get the electorate anti Europe and voting for Maggie May???

EU not pushing any vote in the forthcoming UK election. Calling the UK negotiating position deluded will push up the vote for Labour? No. Just putting down a marker for the post-election continuation of the negotiations. Mind you the current Thailand heat may have sent some imaginations into an overheated feverish condition so you never know what might be thrown into the blender next.

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How do we  know that we owe 100 billion  Euros, the  EU has not published /issued any accounts for the past 10  years plus .

 

If the EU was a PLC  it would have gone bust years ago .

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, kickstart said:

How do we  know that we owe 100 billion  Euros, the  EU has not published /issued any accounts for the past 10  years plus .

 

If the EU was a PLC  it would have gone bust years ago .

 

Myth peddled from the Brexit websites. Budget signed off every year since 2007. Try not to believe every bit of nonsense Boris comes out with. Another bit of junk to put alongside the Brexit Battle Bus NHS figments.

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27 minutes ago, vogie said:

It's really nothing to worry about, Diane Abbott has done some number crunching and she said she can the figure down to £57 10s 6d.

Diane Abbott would have been about age 18 when decimalisation came in. Even the eldest of old codgers (apart from maybe you?) don't think in old money.

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1 minute ago, Flustered said:

You may want to read this.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

 

Not exactly a clean bill of health. Signing off the accounts is not the same as justifying them.

 

Every single year from 1994 there have been significant errors in the accounts.

I was specifically replying to a post that said that accounts had not been submitted or published so lets first put that fake bit of info to bed first.

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39 minutes ago, kickstart said:

How do we  know that we owe 100 billion  Euros, the  EU has not published /issued any accounts for the past 10  years plus .

 

If the EU was a PLC  it would have gone bust years ago .

 

 

 

The real issue is for projects the EU has agreed to fund, as a member of the EU at the time those projects were agreed we should continue to contribute, and projects funded by the EU within the UK should continue to be funded by the EU.

 

It may be substantial but will also be spread over many years but every Euro needs to be justified. 

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3 minutes ago, Basil B said:

The real issue is for projects the EU has agreed to fund, as as a member of the EU at the time those projects were agreed wee should continue to contribute, and projects funded by the EU within the UK should continue to be funded by the EU.

 

It may be substantial but will also be spread over many years but every Euro needs to be justified. 

The only problem with this is that although we may have to pay for these projects, we will never see the fruits of our labours. As the EU will shut the door in our face we will never see a penny back from these "investments" so why pay into them?

 

What we should be doing is costing up how much we have paid in and will never see a return on.

 

Counter argument to those who say if you leave a club you have to pay your dues, is that if the club has committed to future projects and you are no longer a member, you are under no obligation to pay for these as being a non member you will not see any benefits from your payment.

 

As long as we pay our dues up to the point of leaving and cover our share of pensions (another EU rip off) we have no other moral or legal responsibility. The rest is all emotional blackmail.

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4 hours ago, maxtwo said:

The EU are behaving in just the way that made people vote to leave.

Its like listening to the sour faces on Soi Buakaow justifying why they got a divorce.

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1 minute ago, SheungWan said:
4 hours ago, maxtwo said:

The EU are behaving in just the way that made people vote to leave.

Its like listening to the sour faces on Soi Buakaow justifying why they got a divorce.

 

Which, in turn, is nowhere near as painful on the eardrums as listening to the utterly unreasonable, money-grabbing psycho bitch that they divorced :thumbsup:.

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12 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Its like listening to the sour faces on Soi Buakaow justifying why they got a divorce.

 

6 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Which, in turn, is nowhere near as painful on the eardrums as listening to the utterly unreasonable, money-grabbing psycho bitch that they divorced :thumbsup:.

 

Its not every day one scores a hole in one. :cheesy:

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