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May ready for tough talks over Brexit

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Just found this again. Everyone should at least watch it. 42 years ago but still very relevant today.

 

I'm guilty of not appreciating this for too long. Enjoy:

 

 

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Just now, Laughing Gravy said:

What a 'Peaky Blinder"? I have never worn one. We don't were I am from. Come to think of it that's a 'Trotsky cap'. Suitable for the clown Corbyn is. He played a blinder on TV yesterday showing that he has no idea what he is on about but I am sure the students don't care that they were well and truly shafted by him.

 

  God  Bless  you JC ,   our  next PM ,   the new  Jehovah . 

    Destroy   capitalism ,   and  increase  unemployment/ student  benefits , asap . 

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4 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

  God  Bless  you JC ,   our  next PM ,   the new  Jehovah . 

    Destroy   capitalism  asap ,    and  increase  unemployment benefits .

I agree, who needs JC?, the Tories are doing a pretty good job of destroying things right now!

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Liam Fox saying that growing consensus in Cabinet for transitional period extending beyond March 2019.

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Well, obviously it's going to extend beyond March 2019. It wouldn't be a transitional period otherwise.

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1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

Liam Fox saying that growing consensus in Cabinet for transitional period extending beyond March 2019.

Pushing back the idea of a walk out.

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2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Pushing back the idea of a walk out.

 

Or keeping our options open.

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On 21/07/2017 at 4:49 AM, SheungWan said:

Strip out the over-excitable blame throwing and what it seems we are left with here is an acknowledgement from some Hard Brexiteers that they don't have the people in government capable of negotiating the UK's way out of the Brexit paper bag. If they did think they had things under control then there wouldn't be the Its All Cameron's Fault mantra occupying their nightmare hours. Not an edifying sight. PS, I have yet to meet someone who knows what on earth they are saying when they shout 'Google It'. Probably would fall asleep if one started discussing search algorithms.

OK, so we shouldn't be asking the question why the UK is in the position it's in? We should just shut that out of our minds, right? After all it's nobody's fault really... It's just one of those unfortunate things... Past is past, and we need to move on and focus on the here and now and start blaming the people who are dealing with the aftermath of whatever it was that led us to where we are today. And if those people that you are saying are now to blame for the way they are handling the firebomb that unexpectedly landed in their laps should, in the future, decide to lead the nation towards making "one of the biggest decisions this country will face in our lifetimes,” (Cameron's words); they can mislead the nation about their intentions post big-decision; they can surprise everyone (including their successors) by tendering their resignations whilst having no contingency plans in place, and they can move on to pastures greener and when it all goes t!ts up we can just forget about them and start wagging our fingers at the new incoming crew...

 

Unless I missed something it appears that this is what you're saying, right? Hmmm.... It's an interesting concept but I can't help but feel there's a  lack of accountability in this scenario, and I'm unconvinced that it would be a good thing.

 

You're doing the right thing staying away from Google by the way - all those algorithms over there will spin your head for sure. It's intended for academics as far as I can tell - you're better off getting your education here. So, here goes...Let's say that since it was Cameron that called the referendum, it was Cameron who announced that his government would follow the result of the referendum, that prior to the referendum it was Cameron who announced that after the referendum "Come what may, I will continue to lead the country...", and it was Cameron who resigned immediately after the election with no contingency plan in place... he is the cause. And what you are describing as the people in government who are incapable of negotiating their way out of a Brexit paper bag... are the effect. 

 

In other words, it actually is all Cameron's fault. Now there's an edifying thought...

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2 hours ago, jimmybkk said:

OK, so we shouldn't be asking the question why the UK is in the position it's in? We should just shut that out of our minds, right? After all it's nobody's fault really... It's just one of those unfortunate things... Past is past, and we need to move on and focus on the here and now and start blaming the people who are dealing with the aftermath of whatever it was that led us to where we are today. And if those people that you are saying are now to blame for the way they are handling the firebomb that unexpectedly landed in their laps should, in the future, decide to lead the nation towards making "one of the biggest decisions this country will face in our lifetimes,” (Cameron's words); they can mislead the nation about their intentions post big-decision; they can surprise everyone (including their successors) by tendering their resignations whilst having no contingency plans in place, and they can move on to pastures greener and when it all goes t!ts up we can just forget about them and start wagging our fingers at the new incoming crew...

 

Unless I missed something it appears that this is what you're saying, right? Hmmm.... It's an interesting concept but I can't help but feel there's a  lack of accountability in this scenario, and I'm unconvinced that it would be a good thing.

 

You're doing the right thing staying away from Google by the way - all those algorithms over there will spin your head for sure. It's intended for academics as far as I can tell - you're better off getting your education here. So, here goes...Let's say that since it was Cameron that called the referendum, it was Cameron who announced that his government would follow the result of the referendum, that prior to the referendum it was Cameron who announced that after the referendum "Come what may, I will continue to lead the country...", and it was Cameron who resigned immediately after the election with no contingency plan in place... he is the cause. And what you are describing as the people in government who are incapable of negotiating their way out of a Brexit paper bag... are the effect. 

 

In other words, it actually is all Cameron's fault. Now there's an edifying thought...

The (not-so) hilarious joke is that it is the Hard Brexiteers who spend all their time blaming Cameron. Got what they want and still grizzling away. Bad Winners is the definition someone came up with. My own pet theory is that there are some guys who spend their whole lives blaming others for absolutely everything that has happened to them and never quite manage to snap out of it (= grow up) and boy the forum Brexiteers seem to resemble this in spades. Grizzle, grizzle, grizzle.....

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