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5 hours ago, aright said:

Forget about the crystal ball ....leopard ...spots etc. Why don't we have a look at the reality of the SNP over the last few years as seen by the New Statesman, before your so called reality kicks in.

Reminder: Some people would regard the New Statesman as the leading progressive and cultural magazine in the UK unlike the Richard Murphy altar at which you worship.

 

"Scotland already has one of the most powerful devolved administrations in the entire world. The SNP has ruled in Holyrood for nine years, and had a majority for the last five. Yet the SNP’s record, particularly for the most disadvantaged in society whom it claims to speak for, is dire."

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/05/its-time-snps-terrible-record-government-was-exposed

Another distorted response. Are we to take it that this confirms that you know exactly what changes will take place.

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The brexiteers think that it is all sown up. There is every probability that April 2019 will see the start of the campaign to join the European Union, after all that is democracy.

It is already in peoples minds.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-david-liddington-cabinet-office-minister-britain-rejoin-european-union-20-years-a8169126.html

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2 hours ago, sandyf said:

The brexiteers think that it is all sown up. There is every probability that April 2019 will see the start of the campaign to join the European Union, after all that is democracy.

It is already in peoples minds.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-david-liddington-cabinet-office-minister-britain-rejoin-european-union-20-years-a8169126.html

April 2019??  The campaign to not leave the EU started immediately the result was announced!  Not to mention during the run-up to the referendum...

 

But this is admittedly a (partly) facetious comment.  If the UK genuinely leaves the EU, I suspect that an even smaller number will be immediately looking to re-join - as they know that the terms on offer would likely be far worse than before leaving.

 

Edit - 20 years later is an entirely different proposition as nobody has the first idea as to how the UK/EU will have fared this far in the future.

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For the first time in 6 months, people who believe Britain was right to vote for Brexit outnumber those who think it was wrong. A tracking poll by YouGov found that 45% of people think Britons were right to vote to leave the EU, up 3% .The same poll found that44% of people think the UK is wrong to want to leave, down 2%.  

Matthew Goodwin the polling expert said it was the first time since July last year that right has been ahead of wrong.

He said "As I have argued since June 2016, we will see no major shifts in public opinion on this question because it is a vote that is far more expressive/value-driven than 'normal' policy choices.

Mike Smithson from  the Political Betting website said " Basically what this shows is that opinion is evenly divided. What has driven this latest change has been a significant shift among Tory remain voters saying that Brexit is wrong. It was averaging 23 to 24% per survey----now it is 19%..

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6 hours ago, sandyf said:

Another distorted response. Are we to take it that this confirms that you know exactly what changes will take place.

What a pathetic response....pure deflection and no constructive comment on serious issues.....where did I say I knew what changes will take place? Please, give us the evidence as to why it's distorted? Did you read the article, its based on history not future projections We can't have a debate if you are going to make unsubstantiated statements. My comment on Mrs' Sturgeons white paper was predicated by "on the basis of record", not guesswork, but of course you ignored that.

It appears you don't particularly want to hear my crystal ball  but you are happy to bang on about what your ball says about how difficult life will be when the UK leaves the EU,  and negotiations have only just started. You obviously reserve different standards for your self.

At the last General Election the SNP lost a third of its seats and 63% of the electorate didn't vote for them.

It's difficult to put a positive spin on that but I am sure you will try.

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On 1/20/2018 at 12:43 PM, dick dasterdly said:

April 2019??  The campaign to not leave the EU started immediately the result was announced!  Not to mention during the run-up to the referendum...

 

But this is admittedly a (partly) facetious comment.  If the UK genuinely leaves the EU, I suspect that an even smaller number will be immediately looking to re-join - as they know that the terms on offer would likely be far worse than before leaving.

 

Edit - 20 years later is an entirely different proposition as nobody has the first idea as to how the UK/EU will have fared this far in the future.

Yes, April 2019 was an assumption based on "The campaign to not leave the EU" having been terminated for fairly obvious reasons.

There is certainly validity in what you say but I think there is little doubt that the campaign to be part of the EU will soldier on under a different flag.

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