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2 hours ago, grollies said:

They don't and they are. Did you see the photo opportunity with the chief of police with his new sig sauers? pointing it at the lady next to him. 

No l didn't see that, l just think govs have more important things to get done other than this kind of thing, taking guns from foreigner's won't make a great difference on gun incidences or crime. 

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Here is an image from the time of that PR release about the Sig 320s, albeit not of the police chief at that time. The gun has a magazine in it and the slide is forward, making it obvious on both counts that it has not been checked as clear. Apart from handling a potentially unsafe weapon, the senior policeman is breaking two of the 5 Cooper rules (often posted in Thai and English at Thai shooting ranges)  here: always assume every gun is loaded, even if you have checked it yourself; and never point a gun at anything you don't plan to destroy.   

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1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

No l didn't see that, l just think govs have more important things to get done other than this kind of thing, taking guns from foreigner's won't make a great difference on gun incidences or crime. 

 

Taking unregistered guns from foreigners (and Thais) could make a difference but there are no specific plans for that.

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On 10/31/2016 at 10:37 AM, joeyg said:

However FYI Thailand has twice the gun violence deaths of the USA.  Just sayin' 

 

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Looks like a toy gun that shoots plastic bullets so soft you couldn't kill a fly, bought one for my grandson. Anyway that is all you can own in Thailand. Maybe chewing some tobacco and spitting will do more damage

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2 hours ago, uffe123 said:

Looks like a toy gun that shoots plastic bullets so soft you couldn't kill a fly, bought one for my grandson. Anyway that is all you can own in Thailand. Maybe chewing some tobacco and spitting will do more damage

You can upgrade BB guns and use a different weight plastic pellet.

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The OP would have either seen a BB gun, or a shotgun.

 

While researching gun laws in Thailand, I was surprised that shotguns are also legal for regular citizens to own. They're even cheaper than pistols.

 

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If you didn't know what this is, you would think it's a "black rifle" that is now infamous in the US. But it's not an AR-15, it's a Derya Mk12, a Turkish made 12-gauge shotgun. Similar shotguns like this are also popular in Thailand, like the Saiga-12. As far as I've researched, full-auto shotguns are also legal (they are treated no differently from pump-action shotguns or semi-auto shotguns in the law).

 

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2 hours ago, MatteoBassini said:

The OP would have either seen a BB gun, or a shotgun.

 

While researching gun laws in Thailand, I was surprised that shotguns are also legal for regular citizens to own. They're even cheaper than pistols.

 

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If you didn't know what this is, you would think it's a "black rifle" that is now infamous in the US. But it's not an AR-15, it's a Derya Mk12, a Turkish made 12-gauge shotgun. Similar shotguns like this are also popular in Thailand, like the Saiga-12. As far as I've researched, full-auto shotguns are also legal (they are treated no differently from pump-action shotguns or semi-auto shotguns in the law).

 

 

Yes, you can find Derya Mk12s and I think Saiga 12s too in Wang Burapha but they are not the full-auto versions.  Private citizens may own semi-auto shotguns, pistols, short barrelled sub-machine guns (also semi-auto only) and rim fire rifles in .22lr, .22 magnum or .17HMR. Lever action centre fire rifles are allowed but semi-auto centre rifles like the AR15 are prohibited for civilians and there is a temporary ban on imports of short barrelled semi-auto sub-machine guns, although there has been no recall and stocks already in the country can still be traded and transferred.  You can have a centre fire rifle that looks like an assault rilfe in .223 or .308 but on closer examination you should find that it has a charging handle that needs to be pulled back manually after every shot, unless it has been illegally modified.  Better to buy a more accurate bolt action rifle in that case but the assault rifles look cool to some people.  There are quite a few clever dicks locally who buy CMMG .22lr AR15 look alikes legally and convert them illegally to an AR15 by adding a .223 barrel and upper to use military 5.56mm ammo.  AR15s are fun to shoot but it is not worth the risk of getting caught with an illegal conversion in my opinion.

 

The reason that handguns tend to be marked up a lot more than shotguns and rifles is that gun shops get a much smaller annual quota of handguns to sell from the government than they do for long guns.  For some reason shotguns are regarded as less dangerous than handguns in .357 magnum and higher calibre which can only be licensed for sport, not self defence, and require a certificate of training from a certified range, which, of course, is available from many ranges for a small fee without having to do the training.  The cheapest legal firearms you can buy in Thailand are Turkish pump action shotguns and Czech bolt action .22lr rifles.

 

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On 2/10/2018 at 6:34 PM, Kwasaki said:

You can upgrade BB guns and use a different weight plastic pellet.

 

You can also shoot steel ball bearings out of them but that would make them illegal firearms in Thailand.  Since the steel ball bearings are harder than the soft metal of the barrels the BB guns would degrade quite fast on a diet of ball bearings but they could be deadly. 

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On 10/13/2017 at 10:10 PM, Arkady said:

 

Taking unregistered guns from foreigners (and Thais) could make a difference but there are no specific plans for that.

You think these would be Included? 

Thailand's army distributed 2,700 assault rifles to volunteers over the past two months to fight insurgents in the south, officials say.

The policy comes amid a spike in violence in the conflict which afflicts the Muslim-majority provinces.

However, human rights groups say that arming civilians will only aggravate the situation.

The government, which took power in a coup this year, has pledged peace in the region.

On Monday two people were killed and three others injured in a drive-by attack when a gunman in a pick-up truck opened fire at five people in another vehicle in Pattani province.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29892629

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32 minutes ago, joeyg said:

You think these would be Included? 

Thailand's army distributed 2,700 assault rifles to volunteers over the past two months to fight insurgents in the south, officials say.

The policy comes amid a spike in violence in the conflict which afflicts the Muslim-majority provinces.

However, human rights groups say that arming civilians will only aggravate the situation.

The government, which took power in a coup this year, has pledged peace in the region.

On Monday two people were killed and three others injured in a drive-by attack when a gunman in a pick-up truck opened fire at five people in another vehicle in Pattani province.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29892629

In the past reports suggested that they distributed shotguns to volunteers in the South.  Distributing assault rifles seems to be upping the ante.  Shotguns are only effective up 50 metres or so loaded with the 00 buckshot they issue and these were pumps with a tube capacity of 5-7 rounds.  5.56mm assault rifles are effective up to about 450 metres and are particularly effective at longer ranges, if fitted with a combat scope which the US military now issues to every GI. They are also very effective close combat weapons and can be used on full auto with a 30 round magazine but it doesn't say how many rounds were issued to each volunteer.  They is no shortage of 5.56 ammo knocking about in Thailand, either sold illegally by military armourers or even reloaded. Some registered .22lr assault rifles are illegally converted to 5.56mm with a new barrel and upper receiver which is five minute job with the right .22 and the right conversion parts.   Have fired an army M4 5,56mm carbine at an army range.  It is a blast because you have this short 16" barrel firing a powerful round with almost no recoil due to the gas system reloading the next round and counteracting the recoil.  But I am not saying this is appropriate for civilian volunteers.

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