JimmyJ

Similar city as alternative to Chang Mai to avoid air problems?

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Lived in Chiang Mai for around 15 years, the smog started appearing 10-12 years ago, before that not that much of a problem. Smog season normally starts in Feb, just after the cool season, normally lasts 2-3 months (it comes and goes when there is some wind or rain), it can be really bad for a couple of weeks. The level of smog also depends where you stay, outside of the city it never gets that bad (I live 40 km North of the city), in the city the heat and smoke is a lousy combination. Temperatures get really hot from March to April-May, until the rains come in and the temperatures get fine and the smog is gone.

 

Any alternatives depends on what you are looking for, I heard good things about Loei. As mentioned smog is a problem in the entire Northern part of Thailand. I have been also travelling in Laos and it is as bad there during the same period. The main source is burning of fields across the whole region (Myanmar, Laos, Thailand and even China). So any place with a cool season will occasionally have the same problem in Thailand. It hasn't been improving in recent years, despite efforts by local authorities, because it seems to be a regional issue, with smoke coming from outside of Thailand. Never saw any scientific proof where the smoke comes from though.

 

Settling down near the sea is a good option, but it tends to be more crowded and possibly more expensive. Besides if you go down to far south you may get issues with the smoke that seasonally comes up from Indonesia.

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Well, not the type of city you're probably looking for but when I moved to Thailand my top choices were Chiang Mai and Jomtien (Pattaya). 

Unfortunately I had to reject CM for the air issue as I already have long standing lung health issues.

You can find studies of how serious the lung health issue is in CM and that's not only for people that move there with them.

Jomtien doesn't have the cleanest air in the world of course (traffic) but it does have cleansing sea breezes and it's been one of the best places I've ever lived as far as lung health. 

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19 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

 

Are you currently living in Chang Mai?

 

Is the thread below incorrect?

 

Numerous posts discussing serious air problems almost year round.

 

 

 

 

" Some of where you might want to locate will depend on how quickly you make adjustments away from Western habits, like food and movies etc... "

 

I've always loved Thai food (vegetarian).

Download movies from the net - haven't been inside a movie theater in a decade.

 

 

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Pas an educator, I had une,played time to come twice in 2009 and 2010 to travele

 around Thailand to see cities I thought I could retire to. I believe I could live in maybe     3 other cities, butChiangMIfelt right. A lot comes down to personal likes. asaretired Professor, having the universities here was a plus. I found I could have everything I wanted here. Been here5 years. Smoke is an issue but not an overriding one, for me.

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May I suggest Mukdahan coolly basking in the shade of the Phu Phan Mountains.

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ID: 24   Posted (edited)

I don't know why Chiang Mai is rated as sucha good place to retire other than being cheap, and the hills around if you want to get out there.  Pollution is now pretty much 365 days a year same as Los Angeles, and much worse from Feb till it starts raining in June.  Noisy as hell, extremely hot most of the time, no sidewalks, terrifying to ride a bicycle or motorcycle, traffic jams from hell, no mass transportation.DELETED

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There was a TV program aired recently that proposed CM as one of the best retirement places in the world .No mention was made of the infamous "smokey season"

Since then I think many people, who have been living in parts of the world where costs have gone through the roof, eg Sydney or people just looking for a change are looking for alternatives.

I live in CM by necessity ,its cheap and my lovely wife has a large,close family.If I had a choice it would be Dalat, which I guess most people have never heard off  (its in the highlands of Vietnam) 25 degrees pretty well all year round.Most wonderful food and lovely people.

The CM smoky season which can run well ,over 3 months is anywhere the breeze,if any, decides to take it.

Last "smoky"season we took a 1,400 km trip to Petchahabun down Highway 1 and back through Phitsanulok it was truly horrendous all the way.

The coastline is your only alternative if you are happy or can afford to be away from home that long.

The best advice is rent before you buy ,live through it and see how you feel. There will be more talk fests about it being "different' this year,take that with a pinch of salt its been said for as long as I can remember

 

 

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Let me add the good parts of CM are its safe, unless you are on the road, and once you get to meet the locals in your neighborhood and you are polite they treat you quite well. (unless you want a refund)

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Planning to visit Thailand for the 1st time

 

I strongly advise that you visit as long as possible without cutting any ties with home. IMO you will either love it or get out as soon as possible.

 

Don't stay in a tourist hotel, try to get a condo or a house. The tourist experience is vastly different to living here. Of course you'd need to stay in an hotel while looking for said condo or house.

You should also stay in Pattaya and Hua Hin.

Some people would say Bangkok as well, but I think Bkk would drive most people crazy.

If I had my choice, I'd also stay on Jomptien Beach. Slightly less crazy than Pattaya, but near enough to pop over whenever getting the urge for insane traffic and too many people. Way more expats in Pattaya IMO. Certainly more to do.

If I was going to live in Chiang Mai, I'd live a bit out of town, but you'd need your own transport to do that.

 

Good luck.

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