JimmyJ

Similar city as alternative to Chang Mai to avoid air problems?

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This is a great thread. Thanks for all the suggestions, and please keep them coming if anyone has other suggestions or comments or wants to second some of the places mentioned.

 

Mentioning neighboring countries is also very helpful, as I was planning on checking those also, at least very briefly, so your suggestions of which cities is great.

 

Here's something I posted in "The Multi-Entry Visa" thread recently:

 

"My situation:

 

USA citizen living in the USA. Will be making my first trip to Thailand, exploring it with a view towards moving there permanently.

 

Planning about 3 months in Thailand, also quick visits to neighboring countries just in case something grabs me in one as an alternative.

 

Then returning to USA, closing out there, and moving to Thailand on a 1 year retirement visa."

 

Thought I may rent a car during the trip from time to time.

Now, with the wealth of riches in this thread giving me so many places I'd like to see, considering depending on price spending most of the trip with a rental.

 

 

 

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Get yourself down to AAA and get an international drivers license before you get here. 

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18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

I just don't see why its attractive unless you are here for sex ............... all the time.

LOL. having been up on Loy Kroh a few nights now I have given up any idea of that sort of thing. Forum rules mean I can't go into details, but if you are serious about that sort of thing go to Pattaya.

Getting drunk isn't a problem anywhere in Thailand.

It's not even that cheap. Restaurant meals are more expensive than Pattaya, IMO, and accomodation is not more expensive in Pattaya ( and probably cheaper if looking around ).

For cheap one has to go to a non tourist town like Lamphun.

The more western and/or tourist oriented the restaurant, the more expensive the food is. Food is reasonable in most Thai restaurants, but you may not get an English menu.

 

A few nights on Loi Kroh?  I assume you just couldn't believe how bad it was on the first night, or the second night, etc. 

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On 11/10/2016 at 1:20 AM, sawadee1947 said:

any city in developed countries

 

Not Montreal. Not Ottawa. Not Toronto. Which - if I am not mistaken - are cities in developed countries.

 

I am just back from Kathmandu with lungs bruised from extreme pollution there. Now in Canada (before going back to BKK), what a difference.

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I have a 97 year old friend resident in CM since 1960.

He has told me the smog was never as bad as now. 

However he could not remember when matters got so bad, about 20 years ago he thought. 

I mailed Pim editor of CM City Life knowing she was born and bred here but she could not confirm for she did her education in Europe and missed the time the smog stared.

Did CM uni not do a study and suggest it was when Farmers where paid more to grow Corn and this produced massive amounts of waste to be burned off ?

 

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Yes, i've read that too.  To fuel the cars with ethanol, corn (maize) starch is converted  to alcohol.  So to get enough corn, farmers abandoned the traditional rice and went for corn, with subsidies galore.

The beneficiaries?  The big ethanol factories owned by the HI_SO folks, the car dealers, also owned by the HI_SO folks, various govt agencies (holding hands with the HI_SO folks), the farm implements dealers, etc.  The losers are the farmers who ruin the soil, the public who must breath in the dirty air when the burning starts and the everyday Thai who must suffer massive car jams due to uncontrolled vehicularization of the cities and towns.

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We have no idea what the micro particulate matter pollution here does to our bodies in CM , our minds and souls, and add in the noise.

The new fashion, loud motorcycle pipes with teenagers racing around 24/7 in most of this town. I just don't understand why all the these dumb websites with tonnes of ads on them rate this place so high as a reasonable retirement place. Its a joke, "Beautiful Beaches, Wonderful People etc etc." yes I have many Thai acquaintances but they will never be my friend, as it seems to be illegal for some reason. This was told to me way back when while working for the Thai Military. And the heat? Personally I am done with it, and moving for at least 8 months a year out of here.

Also please don't comment with things like good riddance , move if you don't like it etc, or cheap replies. If you want to comment in a nasty way PM me and we will meet in person and have a coffee or a beer and discuss it as kind human beings would do. 

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7 minutes ago, elephant45 said:

We have no idea what the micro particulate matter pollution here does to our bodies in CM , our minds and souls, and add in the noise.

The new fashion, loud motorcycle pipes with teenagers racing around 24/7 in most of this town. I just don't understand why all the these dumb websites with tonnes of ads on them rate this place so high as a reasonable retirement place. Its a joke, "Beautiful Beaches, Wonderful People etc etc." yes I have many Thai acquaintances but they will never be my friend, as it seems to be illegal for some reason. This was told to me way back when while working for the Thai Military. And the heat? Personally I am done with it, and moving for at least 8 months a year out of here.

Also please don't comment with things like good riddance , move if you don't like it etc, or cheap replies. If you want to comment in a nasty way PM me and we will meet in person and have a coffee or a beer and discuss it as kind human beings would do. 

 

Are you paying for the beer ? :smile:

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15 hours ago, elephant45 said:

We have no idea what the micro particulate matter pollution here does to our bodies in CM , our minds and souls, and add in the noise.

 

 

 

A very good point, i have not noticed any ill effects from the pollution but in my mind if you can see it and smell it, i reckon it cannot be doing our bodies any good. 

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On 11 November 2016 at 11:06 PM, KhonKaenKowboy said:

Udon thani..

I think it would help to be able to speak some Thai in Issan

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22 hours ago, jobin said:

Yes, i've read that too.  To fuel the cars with ethanol, corn (maize) starch is converted  to alcohol.  So to get enough corn, farmers abandoned the traditional rice and went for corn, with subsidies galore.

The beneficiaries?  The big ethanol factories owned by the HI_SO folks, the car dealers, also owned by the HI_SO folks, various govt agencies (holding hands with the HI_SO folks), the farm implements dealers, etc.  The losers are the farmers who ruin the soil, the public who must breath in the dirty air when the burning starts and the everyday Thai who must suffer massive car jams due to uncontrolled vehicularization of the cities and towns.

Sorry to question your manifesto, but how is it Nebraska produces 6 times more corn than LOS without the air quality issues?

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