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Uber patrons in Chiang Mai

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I just gave it a test this morning for a run to the airport.  One car.  Uber black choice only.  450 baht.  Hmmmm.  Nothing to rave about by a LONG way and not a patch on BKK, only to be expected I guess.

 

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Used it last night again, from Nong Hoi to the moat, back again at about 1am.

 

80 Baht each way, less than 5 minutes wait both times.

 

Paid cash, have always paid cash, don't know anybody paying with card, I know about 5 or so people using it regulary.

 

It's an absolute game changer in Chiang Mai, it instantly removed one of the main headaches of living here.

 

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3 hours ago, SooKee said:

 

I just gave it a test this morning for a run to the airport.  One car.  Uber black choice only.  450 baht.  Hmmmm.  Nothing to rave about by a LONG way and not a patch on BKK, only to be expected I guess.

 

 

 

Uber Black? In Chiang Mai? 

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Just looked again.  Hangdong to Night Bazaar.  450B.  Bargain (not!!!).  Regular two drivers I use around 250-300.  Same trip on Grab, with a lot more cars around 116-174 (although with my airport experience from Grab I guess that'd go up by 100 minimum by the time they called back, maybe more.  Be giving Uber and Grab pass here I think.  Might work out OK for some depending where you are I suppose.

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LOVE Uber!  It truly is a game-changer!

 

I was an Uber virgin (never used it before CM), and I was concerned the app would be difficult to use, insist on credit card info, or be expensive.

 

NOT!  (On all counts).

 

The  only downside for me is my best Thai buddy is a Tuk-Tuk driver.  We still hang out, have coffee, etc., but I don't call her for rides any more.  I think she knows why, too, but we don't talk about it (!)

 

Just today I called Uber from Worowat, laden with purchases, just too pooped to deal with a red truck.  My driver arrived in 2 minutes, got me home swiftly (in seat-belted, air conditioned splendor!).  50 baht to my place in the Old City.

 

I walk with a cane, and often need transport for even short hops around town.  I find it cheaper than tuk tuks, and not much more than using 1+  Songteaws to get me where I need to go.

 

Especially recommended for night travel, when other transport can get difficult.

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I was just in Chiang Mai, used Uber five times. Out of those five times, two of the drivers told me that with the rates being charged, it was nearly impossible to make much if any profit at all by driving, apart from airport trips at 150 baht. Both said they were planning to give it up. Makes sense to me, as a ride across town taking 20 minutes in the horrible traffic this past week cost me about 35 baht. Added to that, they had to spend time getting to me and then driving around or waiting for the next ride. Uber takes 25% of whatever you pay, so do the math.

 

I am starting to think that unless Uber raises their rates a bit, drivers may begin to get scarce if they cannot make any money at it.

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Recall that Miss Thailand, in recent beauty contest, dressed as a lovely Tuk-Tuk and won a big prize for 'outstanding national pride and local color'.  Who could dress as a Mazda and win a prize?

And, maybe more seriously, giving credit card, phone #, etc to online operators simply opens the door to misbehaviour, and eventual sorrow, to you.  I won't do it.

Additionally, returning late at night from a long air journey to CNX and hopping an open-air tuk-tuk home is way better than some common air con car.

 

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was in cm for christmass ; use only uber ,  and fantastic all time ,30 b trip  50 b trip what a lot of money save :P 

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39 minutes ago, jobin said:

Recall that Miss Thailand, in recent beauty contest, dressed as a lovely Tuk-Tuk and won a big prize for 'outstanding national pride and local color'.  Who could dress as a Mazda and win a prize?

And, maybe more seriously, giving credit card, phone #, etc to online operators simply opens the door to misbehaviour, and eventual sorrow, to you.  I won't do it.

Additionally, returning late at night from a long air journey to CNX and hopping an open-air tuk-tuk home is way better than some common air con car.

 

 

 

I suppose Miss Thailand's costume and its relevance to Uber escapes me. If you prefer haggling and then paying more fare for a tuk-tuk than an air-conditioned car, then that is certainly your option; however that escapes me as well.

 

As for providing your credit card to "online operators", with that paranoia, then you will be better off not having a credit card at all. Each time you use a credit card you provide your credit card data to an online operator. With the example of Uber, only Uber have access to your credit card details and you can be sure they have adequate security since their entire business model relies on it. Besides, you can pay your Uber driver in cash if you prefer.

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8 minutes ago, thai006 said:

was in cm for christmass ; use only uber ,  and fantastic all time ,30 b trip  50 b trip what a lot of money save :P 

 

 

So with Uber's 25% cut, that means your driver earned 22.5 and 37.5 baht respectively. That is precisely why Uber drivers are complaining that they cannot make any money driving for them in Chiang Mai. Hope you left them a tip.

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Tested it , loved it. Nong Hoi to Moat in around 40-50 thb : Honda Civic, H.Jazz, Toyota Altis, comfortable and safe. OK Drivers, I mean they are slow but safe. I paid cash, with always around 15-20thb tip ( 45thb -> 60thb) ... Still better than mini 100 THb tuk-tuk. And they don’t discuss the price, they just say EXACTLY the price (39, 42, etv).

Well satisfied customer ... speaking Thai, I can have a normal conversation. 90% of customers are foreigners, I have been told.

By the way I like the Uber app, clear ans fast.

Phil.

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3 hours ago, bubba said:

 

 

So with Uber's 25% cut, that means your driver earned 22.5 and 37.5 baht respectively. That is precisely why Uber drivers are complaining that they cannot make any money driving for them in Chiang Mai. Hope you left them a tip.

 

Supply and demand - if the drivers don't make money they won't drive, the service will collapse.

 

But, seems like it's very popular.

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, bubba said:

I was just in Chiang Mai, used Uber five times. Out of those five times, two of the drivers told me that with the rates being charged, it was nearly impossible to make much if any profit at all by driving, apart from airport trips at 150 baht. Both said they were planning to give it up. Makes sense to me, as a ride across town taking 20 minutes in the horrible traffic this past week cost me about 35 baht. Added to that, they had to spend time getting to me and then driving around or waiting for the next ride. Uber takes 25% of whatever you pay, so do the math.

 

I am starting to think that unless Uber raises their rates a bit, drivers may begin to get scarce if they cannot make any money at it.

It's common for service providers in CM to complain they don't make enough money.

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6 hours ago, mesquite said:

It's common for service providers in CM to complain they don't make enough money.

 

I do agree with you about that. But in this case, I am wondering whether Uber drivers make anything at all. Think about it - there is a lot of cost involved operating a car, including cost, depreciation (Uber require a late-model car), petrol, insurance, taxes, and maintenance. One driver I spoke with told me that she most often earned about 80 baht per hour, without any airport trips (150 baht flat rate). Sometimes it is zero or 20 baht, with no calls coming in. Subtract all the costs and what is left for the driver? Certainly not a decent living at near minimum wage. Housekeeping jobs at hotels probably pay much better.

 

I really like Uber as well and not just because it is so cheap; however, considering this, I have taken to at least giving the drivers a modicum of a tip. Unless Uber give them a better fare or better share of the fare, I can't imagine how long it will last, with drivers signing up, finding that they cannot earn any money and then leaving, then perhaps some new drivers coming in to have a go at it. There is a limited pool available for this. 

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7 minutes ago, bubba said:

 

I do agree with you about that. But in this case, I am wondering whether Uber drivers make anything at all. Think about it - there is a lot of cost involved operating a car, including cost, depreciation (Uber require a late-model car), petrol, insurance, taxes, and maintenance. One driver I spoke with told me that she most often earned about 80 baht per hour, without any airport trips (150 baht flat rate). Sometimes it is zero or 20 baht, with no calls coming in. Subtract all the costs and what is left for the driver? Certainly not a decent living at near minimum wage. Housekeeping jobs at hotels probably pay much better.

 

I really like Uber as well and not just because it is so cheap; however, considering this, I have taken to at least giving the drivers a modicum of a tip. Unless Uber give them a better fare or better share of the fare, I can't imagine how long it will last, with drivers signing up, finding that they cannot earn any money and then leaving, then perhaps some new drivers coming in to have a go at it. There is a limited pool available for this. 

 

Thank you!!! - It is so nice to finally hear a comment on this forum discussing how little some drivers make and the fact that they have expenses and even families to feed. I am so tired of reading about how people got "ripped off" for 10 baht and such. I have found if you have some respect for the drivers, they are mostly very nice people, just doing what is usually a thankless job. 

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Used uberx for the first time last night. Less than half what I have paid the "metered taxi mafia" in the past. Needless to say, I gave a decent tip. Everyone's a winner... apart from the mafia.

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ID: 78   Posted (edited)

I was pleased to find Uber in CM and have used it a half dozen times this week, including quite late at night. Rarely more than a 5-6 minute wait, although at 2am it took closer to 25-- still less than the hassle of finding a tuk tuk to take me to my home and less expensive even with the unsolicited tips I give.  I may simply have been lucky or helped by good ratings. (Customers are rated just as drivers are and that information is available to the driver when a request is made).

 

None of the drivers I've had in CM (or elsewhere) to this point have been full-time, which very likely makes a difference. If the economics or novelty don't work it will disappear, of course.

 

Tonight will be an interesting test. 

 

 

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last time at maya want back around chang puak  at 7 pm  a tuk tuk come and ask   where u go , he say 150 i say  No lol 120 no 100 no  he ask  me how much  i say uber ride me there for 50 b can  you ? and he gone without say anything hahahah  finish mafia  taxi 

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Thought for sure the TAXI union would sort this out...

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