Jonathan Fairfield

Koh Phangan hospital backtracks after pregnant English tourist is unable to pay medical bill

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32 minutes ago, boooker said:

First of all nobody as third party has the right to withold your passport as it still belongs rented service to you by Gov.

Read last page....secondly if you have a travel Insurance read the small print...exclusion of treatment...thirdly Hospital can claim fee from patient after policy not cover you.And last then it becomes a legal case between 2 parties with regards to payment.

Passport can only be claim by authorities such Police by criminal cases ....not pay is a civil case afterall.

Anybody whom give a passport aka motorbike rental is aswell in the wrong as you not entitle to hand over your passport to a third party ..read your own GOV law.

Despite practise is here by doing so but it is wrong if you go along with it by giving your passport instead of copy ...and if you do so than you legally spoken negligence your own International Law rights yourself.

Hospital here loosing a large amount every year because no insurance or policy is not known by themselves ....so if you do not have coverage in any event whom is to blame.

But Hospital practice withold passport is a violation under the International Law ..as claims admin is not a state police and prostecuter this is the court.

You need to know at least a little of your Law rights and duties.

55,you do know where you are don't you.When blood is pouring out of you one day and they wont admit you without handing over your passport,what will you do.Will you ask them to drive you to the next hospital 50 klms away or meekly break your countries law and hand your passport over.I would suggest the latter.Reality over rules International law any day.

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38 minutes ago, boooker said:

First of all nobody as third party has the right to withold your passport as it still belongs rented service to you by Gov.

Read last page....secondly if you have a travel Insurance read the small print...exclusion of treatment...thirdly Hospital can claim fee from patient after policy not cover you.And last then it becomes a legal case between 2 parties with regards to payment.

Passport can only be claim by authorities such Police by criminal cases ....not pay is a civil case afterall.

Anybody whom give a passport aka motorbike rental is aswell in the wrong as you not entitle to hand over your passport to a third party ..read your own GOV law.

Despite practise is here by doing so but it is wrong if you go along with it by giving your passport instead of copy ...and if you do so than you legally spoken negligence your own International Law rights yourself.

Hospital here loosing a large amount every year because no insurance or policy is not known by themselves ....so if you do not have coverage in any event whom is to blame.

But Hospital practice withold passport is a violation under the International Law ..as claims admin is not a state police and prostecuter this is the court.

You need to know at least a little of your Law rights and duties.

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You can't fix stupid. Pregnant, full moon party, spends all the cash having a great time, doesn't read the insurance policy. Time for some reflection young lady.

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31 minutes ago, Straight8 said:

3 months - would have missed at least 2 if not 3 period cycles, in all of that having unprotected sex during that time. Wouldn't be concerned?? Was she really that clueless or just didn't give a toss?

any possibility the holiday was booked prior to the 3 months? Most holidays are booked far in advance. Maybe her crystal ball was not working at the time, so was not aware she was to become pregnant just prior to her trip to Thailand. She Is 3 months pregnant and has been here for a month. My missus is due to have a baby in March and once the hospitals seen the insurance cover we had their eyes lit up. They went straight to the top drawer for the gouging tools. They are heathens. For an ultrasound and consultation should be around 4000 baht. I see on the bill she was also sent to Samui hospital so they could get their cut. Still at 103,000 is totally over the top. Slimy pr#%#&

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Why was the insurance not confirmed when she first presented herself to hospital ?

 

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22 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

so running up a bill you cannot afford is ok...

People make mistakes onceinawhile. And, at least she had this Insurance. Which she wasnt aware of that they wouldnt pay for pregnancy.

 

Why condemn a person in difficulties instead showing some emphaty??????

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3 minutes ago, louse1953 said:

55,you do know where you are don't you.When blood is pouring out of you one day and they wont admit you without handing over your passport,what will you do.Will you ask them to drive you to the next hospital 50 klms away or meekly break your countries law and hand your passport over.I would suggest the latter.Reality over rules International law any day.

 

Fair enough, but what about if they overcharge you by like 4-5X the amount, hold your passport hostage, threaten you with legal action, all while you are sick & recovering in the hospital and venerable? 

 

Nothing like being sick and bleeding and being taken advantage of for it right? 

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So what???

Thailand has so many touists that can't pay their bills and the country of Thailand (taxpayers) have to cover the costs!

You think this is fair????

In USA nobody treat you without prepay the treatment!

 

So lovly tourists: take care you have the proper insurance and dont blame anbody if things go wrong as i'ts your (the tourists) responsibility to have enjough money or insurance!

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31 minutes ago, Strange said:

 

She had valid travel insurance, valid travel documents, probably had tickets, and probably had enough money to continue "slumming it" for the last couple days. 

 

Now I don't have a lot of sympathy for the woman, but take it easy. 

 

 

 

 

She likely knew she was pregnant, and either did not read the T&Cs or knew under the terms of her insurance, medical cover was invalid. How do you presume she had 'insurance', it refused to cover her, so she did not!

What method can the hospital employ to ensure patients pay their bills? It doesn't sound like she had her Amex with her. Even if she did have valid travel insurance, it is likely it will not pay the hospital directly, and will only refund when she returns to the UK on production of receipts.  Hence she would need some finances.  It is these types of tourists that put up medical bills for those who do pay.

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19 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

Agree entirely.  Stupid woman on multiple counts, not knowing her travel I nsurance didn't cover pregnancy, pregnant at a full moon party, Insufficient money for an emergency, expecting a foreign hospital to take a loss, and no doubt will walk away with no Intention of paying the balance.

 

Just Imagine the IQ of the kid with that as a mother.

 

I'm outraged by the moral outrage at the hospital trying to secure what was owed to them.

 

Her behaviour will be to the detriment of others In the future.

Exactly.Everybody will have to have compulsory insurance sooner or later and that is gunna cost the oldies big time.Low acts like this only hasten it coming in.Remember the TVF translation debacle and how many seniors could not or couldn't get insurance.

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7 minutes ago, manhood said:

So what???

Thailand has so many touists that can't pay their bills and the country of Thailand (taxpayers) have to cover the costs!

You think this is fair????

In USA nobody treat you without prepay the treatment!

 

So lovly tourists: take care you have the proper insurance and dont blame anbody if things go wrong as i'ts your (the tourists) responsibility to have enjough money or insurance!

 

No. So much. Just No. 

 

The hospital was private. Has nothing to do with "Thai Taxpayers"

 

In the USA, ANYONE will be treated even if you are a tourist or a completely illegal immigrant. You will be left free to go at the end of your treatment with a bill for services. Dont even need a an ID card for emergency services. The bill will be huge, and yes, the actual US Taxpayer & Hospital will have to absorb the cost, but nobody is going to be held hostage, unlike Thailand. 

 

Please, get your facts right. 

 

Well I have my own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! experiance falling sick in USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before seeing a doctor in hospital i had to pay !!!!!!!

And yes it was in Thailand a privat hospital: but the hell who pays the unpaid bills?????

 

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