Jonathan Fairfield

Koh Phangan hospital backtracks after pregnant English tourist is unable to pay medical bill

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37 minutes ago, bkk_mike said:

 

The UK embassy will visit their citizens that are in jail and proclaim they're giving them "support", but you get the distinct feeling it's only because they're expected to do that as a minimum.

 

For normal citizens they exist solely to charge them large-ish amounts of money for a piece of paper essentially saying that our citizen has said he earns this much / lives at this address because the Thai government demands a letter from the embassy.

 

They've sold off some of the land they were given by Chulalongkorn for the express purpose of building the embassy, so they are just doing the usual job of post-Thatcher era civil servants - that is extracting money from assets, and their citizens are simply another asset for that purpose.

They're not in the habit of despatching black-clad commandos crashing through windows with a box of milk tray under each arm to retrieve something that was never a bargaining chip in the first place, but will issue a replacement or travel document enabling citizens to return home.

 

Has anyone stopped to consider how many elaborate tales are heard (at any Embassy in bkk)  explaining how idiots and passports part company each month, particularly after a full moon party? 

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7 hours ago, ParadiseLost said:

Most likely the hospital saw an insurance document, thought they hit the pot of gold, so gouged the hell out of her expecting an easy payday. Standard practice in the medical industry, no?

 

Once they realised the victim/patient had no cash and started making a noise they obviously decided better to make it go away. No point getting bad publicity.

 

One of the good things about social media.

Pot of gold? Interesting. In the USA its just the opposite. If you have insurance, they have to deal with the insurance company and they generally give discounts  to the insurance companies. If you don't have any insurance, they really sock it to you. Everything gets marked up big time. $100 tooth brushes etc.

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2 minutes ago, Dan5 said:

Pot of gold? Interesting. In the USA its just the opposite. If you have insurance, they have to deal with the insurance company and they generally give discounts  to the insurance companies. If you don't have any insurance, they really sock it to you. Everything gets marked up big time. $100 tooth brushes etc.

 

Woah- you have that 100% completely backwards.

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they tried to skin her alive because she's a farang.   oh, the stupid farang have so much money, they won't even notice 3000 dollars.  i wonder if they would have charged a thai citizen the same amount. 

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Thailand is officially the Hub of Medical Tourism.

 

I am sure she got a smile when they gave her the bill.

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10 hours ago, z42 said:

Absolute thievery by some of the hospital brass foiled seemingly... Or am i missing something (itemised bill maybe)? And also a glaring example how travel insurance in a lot of instances is pretty worthless when it is actually needed. 

Glad to hear the girl will be getting home without any extra undue stress

 

" Absolute thievery by some of the hospital brass foiled seemingly "

 

And those of us who do pay our hospital bills will end up covering the losses the hospitals suffer due to uninsured patients . "Thievery" is taking something you haven't paid for.

 

Maybe those of you who are so sympathetic for those patients should volunteer to pay a 10% surcharge on your hospital bills to cover those who stiff the hospital.

 

Tourists should be required to have proper insurance coverage. 

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11 hours ago, Strange said:

 

Never, EVER, give up that passport. 

 

Single most important thing to a foreigner here in Thailand, second is bug-out cash and credit cards. They get you by the balls (or uterus).

 

Also its a real chickenshit maneuver/probably illegal to take someones only travel document and hold it hostage. Let alone its wasn't even an official person, just hospital people. Pretty pathetic on the hospital and infuriating just reading it. 

 

As for the rest of the topic, well, Full Moon Party, 3 months pregnant, no money..... 

 

i agree traveling with no back up funds is a silly thing to do. a credit card with a few thousand dollars available money is a great idea. i would gladly hand over a passport if i was in some medical strife. single most important thing is your or your kids life.

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Of course, The Hospital has no right, and no power to hold their passport. This is the property of the foreign governement. (Here British)
Hospital has to give up the charge as they break the law...and could have more problem.

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1 hour ago, Strange said:

 

I pay my bills, but if someone is trying to screw me, I'm gonna take care of #1, and thats myself. No loyalty to a scammer. 

Have you ever been scammed by hotel like this? I stay in dozens of hotels a year, and it's never happened to me once. On those rare occasions where there has been a 'discrepancy' (e.g., they say some item is missing from the fridge), the hotel has always accepted my (true) assertion that I took nothing. Also, every hotel I've stayed at has expected me to turn in the key(s) at check-in, so I'm not sure how you check-out then go back to room to collect your stuff. Of course, the hotels also want to do a room-check for missing items before you leave, so I don't understand how they freely allow you to go back to the room after your bill has been finalised ...   

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3 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

Tourists should be required to have proper insurance coverage. 

 

And Thailand should bill for nature of injury rather than ethnicity of patient.

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2 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

Tourists should be required to have proper insurance coverage. 


This would be "thievery". What about freedom ? Insurance are expensive, and has a lot of exception. They are the thieves! 
The whole thing could be much more simple : if a patient can't pay. just send the bill to the right embassy who will follow up to the tourist in their own country...
The girl is actually lucky that she's got admitted....because if you can't pay, they won't take care of you...not like in our (my) country where they MUST take care of you even if you can't pay. ( they don't check that before anyway and if you can'tt they will find a way : monthly payement, or in 2-3 times).
I remember the story of a man, in Thailand, who lost two fingers. He came to the hospital with his two fingers in a bag with ice. 
The doctors ask him which one he want back because he can't pay for both...
 

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11 hours ago, Strange said:

 

Never, EVER, give up that passport. 

 

Single most important thing to a foreigner here in Thailand, second is bug-out cash and credit cards. They get you by the balls (or uterus).

 

Also its a real chickenshit maneuver/probably illegal to take someones only travel document and hold it hostage. Let alone its wasn't even an official person, just hospital people. Pretty pathetic on the hospital and infuriating just reading it. 

 

As for the rest of the topic, well, Full Moon Party, 3 months pregnant, no money..... 

 

These are the kind of stories that everyone contemplating a trip to thailand needs to see...in the LOS, the smiles end when the money runs out...ruthless people actually.

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