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Samui ferry inundated with water harks back to Townsend Thoresen disaster

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I worked on ferries all my life. While free-surface effect is a definite hazard, the amount of water shown in the video is of no consequence. What I would be more concerned about is the fact that the scuppers that should drain the water are probably plugged and the freeing ports that would open and release excess water are probably seized shut. And as a marine engineer I always pay a visit to engine rooms on all ferries I travel on and then I go sit on the outer deck near the life-jackets as the state of vessels below decks in Asia is appalling.

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7 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

I worked on ferries all my life. While free-surface effect is a definite hazard, the amount of water shown in the video is of no consequence. What I would be more concerned about is the fact that the scuppers that should drain the water are probably plugged and the freeing ports that would open and release excess water are probably seized shut. And as a marine engineer I always pay a visit to engine rooms on all ferries I travel on and then I go sit on the outer deck near the life-jackets as the state of vessels below decks in Asia is appalling.

As an ex volonteer of the French sea rescue SNSM I made this picture on a ferry to  Samui...it seems it's in a no better state of what you saw below deck the wooden frame is broken and could cause severe cut to people :post-4641-1156693976:

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 Indonesian  ferries make Thai ferries look good. The one I was on had rusty hooks where the lifeboats should have been. On the bridge however was a little plastic two man dinghy. When a big wave hit it the door to the fire hose cabinate  opened and it was empty.

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43 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

As an ex volonteer of the French sea rescue SNSM I made this picture on a ferry to  Samui...it seems it's in a no better state of what you saw below deck the wooden frame is broken and could cause severe cut to people :post-4641-1156693976:

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4 hours ago, Deli said:

Which company was it ?

My money is on Raja Ferry.... most of their boats were built before the Ark.

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1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

12 posts in and no one with a thaitanic joke.

 

disappointed.

Thailand could have their own "USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage" moment in history, except of course it will be women, children, tourist and backpackers of Courage.

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2 hours ago, robertson468 said:

Several months ago I met my Wife who was due to disembark from the the Raj Ferry.  I was horrified to see that it was listing a good 15 degrees, which could be clearly seen by looking at the comparison of the horizontal gantry on the dock to the Bridge on the Ferry.  As others have said, an accident waiting to happen and I have said that neither she, or I will ever travel that route.  Rather than complaining to the authorities, I would suggest that people stop traveling on it and once they start loosing money (the few important factors to Thai Owners) they will do something about it.

I would love to but for those of us on Koh Phangan, Raja is the only choice we have to get vehicles on and off the island.  If anyone one has a couple of 100 million baht to spare on buying some decent boats I know an island full of people who would be lining up to be your customers.

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1 hour ago, Bsd said:

I would love to but for those of us on Koh Phangan, Raja is the only choice we have to get vehicles on and off the island.  If anyone one has a couple of 100 million baht to spare on buying some decent boats I know an island full of people who would be lining up to be your customers.

Seatran ferries look much better and in my opinion belch out far less black smoke.

 

The problem with most of these companies is lack of re-investment; they rather suck out the profits and spend it on huge houses (anyone spotted the white mansion near the Lomprayah pier, Don Sak?!) and of course the latest Mercedes...

 

Songsern is another fine example, their piers in Samui/KP are a joke!

 

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8 hours ago, ParadiseLost said:

Seatran ferries look much better and in my opinion belch out far less black smoke.

 

The problem with most of these companies is lack of re-investment;

 

Songsern is another fine example, their piers in Samui/KP are a joke!

 

From what I have seen of the Seatran ferries while waiting in Nathon they do appear to be much better, unfortunately seatran only send their passenger ferries to KP.

 

Songserm, the blue boats are so slow and noisy; the old white boats, well I would rather swim.

 

For all of them basic maintenance seems to be a unknown term, how many ferries have broken seats , leaking roofs/windows, etc.

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I travelled quite a few times on Raja ferries in 1999/2000 and they used third hand vessels with Chinese characters (second hand) and (East-) German instructions from a VEB-shipyard in Rostock. VEB was a terminology used by the German Democratic Republic only so you can imagine that the vessel did not really undergo an improvement by the Chinese after buying said ferry from Honecker-land.

I am pretty sure they never replaced these old ferries hence if it was that ferry then the boat is 30+ years old at least; more likely though pushing 50. Given the great attention to maintenance by both the Chinese and the Thais it is - seriously - only a matter of time 

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3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

I travelled quite a few times on Raja ferries in 1999/2000 and they used third hand vessels with Chinese characters (second hand) and (East-) German instructions from a VEB-shipyard in Rostock. VEB was a terminology used by the German Democratic Republic only so you can imagine that the vessel did not really undergo an improvement by the Chinese after buying said ferry from Honecker-land.

I am pretty sure they never replaced these old ferries hence if it was that ferry then the boat is 30+ years old at least; more likely though pushing 50. Given the great attention to maintenance by both the Chinese and the Thais it is - seriously - only a matter of time 

 

One of their boats still has the timetable for when it worked around Kobe stuck on a wall near one of the walkways. 

 

R10 their "brand new" boat (how they described it) has Chinese/Kanji characters written on the bow and visible in the video they made about it being new. 

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