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Scotland's Sturgeon says: I can win an independence vote

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2 minutes ago, strikingsunset said:

I am really insulted by the way we English are always having to " cow tow" to the constant whinging and whining of the scots - for the first time here I say it- don't let the door hit your arse on the way out and don't try and come back...


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Exactly what the mainland Europeans told the English a few months ago  ;-)

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4 minutes ago, strikingsunset said:

I am really insulted by the way we English are always having to " cow tow" to the constant whinging and whining of the scots - for the first time here I say it- don't let the door hit your arse on the way out and don't try and come back...


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In all fairness, it's not all the Scots, just the nationlistic SNP.

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ID: 24   Posted (edited)

12 minutes ago, whatawonderfulday said:

But to give credit where credit is due the number of discoveries or inventions directly attributable to a Scottish person is exceptionally high given the size of the nation

Yes that is true.....I don't know just where on the list the " GLASGOW KISS " fits in, I discovered it while walking into a pub in Easter house in the 60s, when Scotland where playing England on the TV--I obviously cheered for the wrong side,

Yes they have invented a lot re the size of their population, & deserve the credit for that..............:coffee1:

Edited by oxo1947

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15 minutes ago, whatawonderfulday said:

Really then you must know more then this professor,

 

Professor Neil Walker, an expert on constitutional theory and holder of the regius chair of public law at the University of Edinburgh, believes it is extremely unlikely a third way could be found to allow Scotland to accomodate both its place in the UK and the EU.“If you put the question in black and white - can Scotland remain a member of the EU, at the same time as being part of the UK, while the rest of the UK leaves the EU? The answer has to be plainly no,” he said.“The member state is the UK. If the UK is leaving, and Scotland remains part of the UK, it’s improbable, bordering on inconceivable, that Scotland can remain in the Europpean Union.”

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/could-scotland-legally-remain-a-member-of-the-eu-post-brexit-1-4191495

 

Look at what he said

The member state is the UK. If the UK is leaving, and Scotland remains part of the UK, it’s improbable, bordering on inconceivable, that Scotland can remain in the Europpean Union.”

 

Scotland remaining part of UK. 

The referendum is to become independent prior to UKs departure of EU

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We built a wall to keep them out. They have kept coming south ever since.
They harp on about Bannockburn,  (1314), which is probably the last time they won anything, including soccer, so let them vote and leave us in peace for the first time in 700 years.


I am not so sure that you or yours built it, unless you have a bit of Roman in you.
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It is the UK that has EU membership, not Scotland. Shortly the UK will be advising the EU that it intends to leave. Assuming Scotland is permitted another independence vote , and the vote goes the way SNP would like, then Scotland shall have to apply for membership of the EU.  Assuming the remaining 27 countries of the EU approve Scotland joining, then this process will still take some years until Scotland has totally devolved from the UK. In that interim period they will neither have the support of England nor that of the EU.
 
You can forget England buying expensive offshore oil, its cheaper from elsewhere. Same goes for gas which England can buy from overseas via the interconnector.
 
If Scotland votes for independence it will be a bit like turkeys voting for Xmas.  Mind you Nicola Sturgeon does show similar traits IMO


You really don't understand how the oil markets work, do you?

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1 minute ago, rockingrobin said:

Look at what he said

The member state is the UK. If the UK is leaving, and Scotland remains part of the UK, it’s improbable, bordering on inconceivable, that Scotland can remain in the Europpean Union.”

 

Scotland remaining part of UK. 

The referendum is to become independent prior to UKs departure of EU

Yes and I would wager it is impossible for Scotland to be totally devolved by March 2020 due to legal and constitutional hurdles,  after a "yes"  vote late 2018/early 2019 for that to become absolute.

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2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 


You really don't understand how the oil markets work, do you?

 

Clearly you don't by your response.

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Clearly you don't by your response.


Well I have worked for one of the largest integrated oil and gas companies in the world for close to 30 years in various roles in various countries so I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I know more than the OP, and if you think that his comments made sense, then you too.

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This women is crazy! If she get a 2nd go and loses will she leave politics forever I do hope so, I always thought there was something fishy about here and Alex Salmond.

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ID: 33   Posted (edited)

2 hours ago, ddavidovsky said:

 

If she says the goalposts have changed because of Brexit, well, Brexit hasn't happened yet. They should wait several years at least 

 

 Fyi , Brexit will never happen ,  both sides  will fail to agree, on a brexit deal . Suprise suprise .

        Just in time  , for a general election ,  and guess who will put his hat in the ring

             for  the New  Consevative leadership   ,  born again  DCameron .

      

             Bttopic ,  the  wee lass is all mouth , and no brain .

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1 hour ago, whatawonderfulday said:

But to give credit where credit is due the number of discoveries or inventions directly attributable to a Scottish person is exceptionally high given the size of the nation.  

Such as the invention of the Telephone by the Italian Antonio Meucci.

Or what about the inventor of the T.V.  Was it the German Paul Nipkow, or Englishman Edwin Belin,or Russian Vladimir Zworykin,maybe even the American Philo Farnsworth.

 I suppose it all boils down to how often you try and convince people,including yourself.

"AH " well at least the Scots can take pride in the Haggis,except even that  comes from Lancashire, according to a Scottish author a few years back.

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Such as the invention of the Telephone by the Italian Antonio Meucci.
Or what about the inventor of the T.V.  Was it the German Paul Nipkow, or Englishman Edwin Belin,or Russian Vladimir Zworykin,maybe even the American Philo Farnsworth.
 I suppose it all boils down to how often you try and convince people,including yourself.
"AH " well at least the Scots can take pride in the Haggis,except even that  comes from Lancashire, according to a Scottish author a few years back.


I thought it was the Romans who invented haggis? But good to see that, as usual, you don't let things like that that get in your way of doing your best to rubbish Scotland before you declare that we are all anti-English.
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56 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 


You really don't understand how the oil markets work, do you?

 

 

  Well according to a SNP spokesperson a few days ago. The SNP have no intention of promoting the idea that the Scottish economy is any way reliant on the

price of oil. Which is good news,as the price of oil is forecast to go lower again, due mainly to the American shale industry,starting to ramp up production.

However up to today the SNP have not produced an alternative source of revenue. Maybe that information will be forth coming in the next few months. As a separated Scotland would take a great deal of  strain from the English taxpayers.

  

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7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 


I thought it was the Romans who invented haggis? But good to see that, as usual, you don't let things like that that get in your way of doing your best to rubbish Scotland before you declare that we are all anti-English.

 

 Just repeating Scottish author Catherine Brown. Although I have also read that the Haggis originated from China,the same as Whisky.

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At least someone is standing up to T May and her rush to take the UK into oblivion.

That is more than the official opposition led by G Corbyn are doing.

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